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MasterAnything2055 t1_j6h7e98 wrote

Homework is mental. It’s like asking you to work for free lol.

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Dggrrr t1_j6igcyd wrote

I agree , but yk practice does make you more prepared so I don’t think it’s COMPLETELY unnecessary. Maybe a more fun version ?

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forever_thro t1_j6h6pgl wrote

Are you talking about your homework or their homework? Because I’m pretty sure they love your homework. It keeps you sober and quiet and occupied.

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vivalicious16 t1_j6j2nca wrote

Well I call my mom crying almost every night over my college math homework. I’d say it keeps me sober and occupied, but not so quiet

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canna_fodder t1_j6h7prz wrote

I am convinced that they change teaching methods every other generation so us parents can not help our children.

Common core? Cake method? Where the fuck are phonics?

Shits whack.

(My youngest is 13, my oldest is 28, the oldest is unable to help the youngest.)

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DragoonXNucleon t1_j6i92tr wrote

The oldest isn't able to help because he doesn't want to. He should be easily capable of helping and is choosing not to.

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HexFyber t1_j6hr9p3 wrote

Sorry to disappoint your thoughta but what you are convinced of makes no sense

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ForceOfAHorse t1_j6hhbqv wrote

Rightfully so. Homework is for students, not for their parents. There is everything needed to do it available in the books. Also, homework is feedback to teacher. If kids struggle with homework, that means something is wrong and it should be addressed.

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w33dcup t1_j6i1m7p wrote

You'd think so but books aren't even issued for some classes. Some teachers rely on online sources to teach "just watch this Kahn Academy video". Or it's all online and the site is down or links don't work properly. Not to mention the number of mistakes I've seen in my child's homework. Sometimes, the homework doesn't even make sense or is not aligned with the course. And there's unrealistic deadlines that almost feel punitive sometimes.

Something is wrong, more frequently than it should be, and it's that art/science of teaching is lost on some teachers. As a parent, I've had to address with more than I'd hoped I would need to.

Not to say there aren't good teachers out there...there definitely are. And I know it's challenging and they lack resources. Yes, homework is for students. But students need support at home as well (and teachers will tell you that). Learning doesn't happen solely at school.

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ForceOfAHorse t1_j6i8do6 wrote

> And there's unrealistic deadlines that almost feel punitive sometimes.

Wouldn't it be easily explained by assuming that parents are sharing the workload? After years and years of kids coming to class with all the assignments done, it would just become a new standard. If all kids are showing homework done, what's the problem then? It's easy job!

Anyway, it's just homework. It doesn't matter if there are mistakes, or if it's not done fully. All it matters is that a kid spent time on their own (or with peers) trying to solve the problems using materials available to them and skills they acquired during class.

The only acceptable (to me) help with homework is to show your kid the methods. Never use your own knowledge on the subject to "help" them solve issues, only encourage your kid to seek the answers on their own. But that's something that would be done few times at start of their education, not some regular occurrence.

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Maximum_Lengthiness2 t1_j6jetf9 wrote

What do you mean, it doesn't matter if they make a mistake doing their homework? I was never that lucky! If I didn't turn my homework in done correctly from start to finish, I'd get reprimanded in front of the class and be bullied after that by the teacher and the rest of the class, alike. Plus I'd be made into an example of what not to do. You see 😍Blank, this is the way you do it, not like blank 😠 over there that is stupid and will always be stupid, and amount to nothing, because she's unwanted by everyone, including her family. Cut back to you over there wanting the Earth to swallow you. You are a first grader, crying, and the teacher mocking your cries and provoking other students to mock you and say other aggressive things to you, and the other students following suit. There was a point where the teacher told all the students to tell me whenever I said something, to shut up and that I and my words were worthless. Then the teacher would give me an order and no one would listen to me. This would carry on until the teacher would come back and ask me how the thing went. Then when nothing of what she had told me to do was done, she would try to place the blame on me. Then the other child would say blank was insisting on doing such and such things. Then she'd proudly announce that she had barred me from doing those things. Then I, would say. See Miss BLANK, I did try to do what you told me to do, but Blank barred me from doing that which you told me to do. I still got blamed most of the time because people were used to punishing me, and they did not want to lose the bribe that was given to them Blank's parents every Friday or every two weeks.

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w33dcup t1_j6jm65z wrote

I agree with you. Parents doing their kids homework doesn't help. I told my kids basically the same. "Homework is for you to exercise and practice what you've learned. It doesn't need to be perfect. Just do your best, make notes of questions where you struggled for teacher followup." My assistance was as you described. "Show me what you're doing" and I might course correct, suggest a resource, but never give the answer. I would affirm a correct answers and walk back incorrect answers. If there were ridiculous deadlines, I told my kids not to worry too much about it.

Most of us have been through it with a bad/boring/vindictive teacher. As a parent, I try to be understanding (of both sides). I don't hate homework or teachers. I do hate poorly planned or executed assignments/projects. That includes my (former) jobs too.

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EsoLDo t1_j6i0rnw wrote

If I remember correctly I read the homework is originally from france and it was a punisment.

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HypnoticRoots t1_j6iq9e2 wrote

Agree... I do wish my 13-year-old had less homework.. I just want to be able to spend time with him in the evening, hanging out, instead of doing more work.

If he needed after school work to understand subjects he was struggling with, then I would send him to after school tutoring, which is offered for free at the school.

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subzero112001 t1_j6hmc8w wrote

Only a stupid parent would dislike homework for their child. Anyone with half a brain understands the incredible value of homework.

Unless that specific homework is particularly counterproductive to education.

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distraught-takoyaki t1_j6i27op wrote

Not sure why youre being downvoted but i agree with you

As an immigrant that didnt speak a word of english when i first moved to australia, homework helped me a lot as regular practice with words and reading helped me remember and integrate it into my long term memory without doing my homework i probably wouldve taken a lot longer to catch up to my peers and graduate from the ESL class

Im also a maths tutor for primary and high school kids and i can tell you with 120% confidence that the kids that did (or at least attempted) their homework do wayyyyy better in school and just learn faster in general

Learning doesnt stop when you get home and tbh i worry for the kids of anyone that think so

p.s. some homework have stupid convoluted answers and are pointless but they are in the minority

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BreakfastBeerz t1_j6iqjbh wrote

>Not sure why youre being downvoted but i agree with you

Getting downvoted because they said "anyone with half a brain understands" and then went on to display that they have half a brain and don't understand what OP meant.

OP isn't saying that parents hate homework because their have to do it. OP is saying that parents hate homework because the parents often have to help their kids do it and parents often don't remember most of it so it is hard to help.

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HypnoticRoots t1_j6mhhqp wrote

Actually, OP did not go into detail for why parents hate homework. People in the comments have given their own reasons.

For me personally it has nothing to do with not being able to help with it... It's just the fact that kids are in school for 7 and 1/2 hours a day where I live. After that I feel like they should be free to do after school activities or spend time with their families. My 13-year-old has a couple hours of homework every night and I would just love to be able to hang out with him in the short time we have in the evening.

Additionally some kids don't have the time and resources after school to really get that homework done. Some kids have to watch their younger siblings. Some kids have to go to work. Some kids just live in an environment not conducive to completing homework, unfortunately.

I do however understand the importance of the occasional homework assignment or extra work if you need the practice. And of course there's always projects... It's the daily busy work and over assigning of homework that bothers me the most.

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BreakfastBeerz t1_j6mvg1n wrote

Safe bet you're a stay at home parent? Unfortunately, working parents days don't end when work does. There is still a pile of house work to be done, make dinner, do dishes, wash laundry, and whatnot. As much as I'd love to just sit down and spend all that time with my kids, there is easily an hour after I get home where I'm working that the kids can do work too. The routine is they get free time from when they get home from school around 3:30 until I get home around 5:30. Then everyone gets their work done, dinner around 6:30 which we all eat together. Then we usually have another hour or so after that for family time.

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HypnoticRoots t1_j6n04a6 wrote

Lol I wish I was a stay-at-home parent!

I'm a single mom, currently working from home 🥴 There is indeed very little time in the evening for us to come together, just a couple hours really. And I have to start the bedtime routine with my youngest around 7:00 so it cuts the evening short.

Also sounds like you guys have about an hour of school work the kids need to do at home? My son easily has at least 2 hours of work every night. He's in middle school. I'm sure that will increase once he reaches high school. He's a smart kid and works independently well, but he gets so bored with the subjects because it's all so easy for him - and it still takes him a long time to complete things.

It is difficult finding a balance. I'm really glad that you guys are able to balance your routine as well as you can. That's all we can really do 💜

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subzero112001 t1_j6lellp wrote

>because the parents often have to help their kids do it

Oh NO! Woe is me that a parent has to help teach their child?!?!?

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electrical-neo t1_j6hug80 wrote

anyone with half a brain understands the incredible power of homework. anyone with an entire brain understands that schools should be the place for learning, not homes

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Ubermenschen t1_j6i1eza wrote

You don't learn anything at home?

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electrical-neo t1_j6i2ljs wrote

sorry for the confusion, what i meant is that schools are supposed to be the places where you learn school stuff like maths and other subjects, and you shouldn't be forced to spend your free time doing that

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anomthrowaway748 t1_j6j23dv wrote

I agree, and home should be for lifestyle stuff like cooking, cleaning etc.

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subzero112001 t1_j6lednx wrote

> that schools should be the place for learning, not homes

Sounds like you and your parents were pretty dumb.

Parents are supposed to constantly teach their children. This is basic biology.

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