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myarsehasteeth t1_j7u24ml wrote

"Service guarantees citizenship" springs to mind. Glad they got what they were promised!

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victorix58 t1_j7u6uly wrote

I was thinking how on earth do you get to be a soldier for a country and not be a citizen of that country. If we're accepting someone into the military, their citizenship should go through before that even happens.

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Zech08 t1_j7uh6un wrote

lol youd be surprised how difficult it could for some cases. I had a shitty time trying to get my citizenship while in the military and know several others that had to go through way more trouble than necessary. And this was when they swapped over the time in service guarantee to as long as you are active service.

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a-snakey t1_j7v4liv wrote

Because Republicans made the process so complicated in an attempt to make it discouraging.

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sharksnut t1_j87pfgr wrote

Look at the dates. Every man for whom a deportation date was mentioned was deported by the Obama/Biden administration.

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Jaysyn4Reddit t1_j7uas59 wrote

Foreign Legions have been a thing for a long, long time. Urkraine has one right now.

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victorix58 t1_j7ub7lf wrote

Sure. And the idea has been questioned since ancient rome. If you are dying and killing for a country, it should be beyond question that you are a citizen.

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hydrOHxide t1_j7w4a8q wrote

Actually, if you serve in the French Foreign Legion, you WILL get French citizenship after a few years - if you want it. You can even get a whole new identity, papers and all.

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Paladoc t1_j80pqko wrote

Right, but that's the boon granted someone serving in THE Foreign Legion, you get your French Citizenship when it's all said and done.

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Fuzakenaideyo t1_j7unn3h wrote

Would you like to know more?

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MetalWings202 t1_j7uqm0h wrote

I would actually, because don't you have to be a citizen of a country before you can be in the military?

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Bacon_Bitz t1_j7uxd2y wrote

No you do not! In the US as far as I know anyone can join (maybe not countries we have beef with?) but after you serve your required duty you can apply for citizenship. You should get it no problem. However, if you committed a crime before you're a citizen you can be deported.

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infectedtoe t1_j7vj7ld wrote

We had a Chinese guy in boot camp who literally got to America 3 months before hand. Literally didn't speak a single word of English, no idea how he was allowed to join. And I don't even mean because of his ethnicity or anything. The country doesn't have an official language, but the military sure does because everyone needs to be able to communicate effectively in emergency situations

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snarky_answer t1_j7v2ubd wrote

You just need to have a green card to enlist. Can’t be a military officer if you’re not a citizen though.

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pyrrhios t1_j7vc1p9 wrote

I get the reference, but at the same time, it absolutely should.

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Doomgloomya t1_j7x960g wrote

The ones that lived and had people advocating for them in the US did.

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UsmcFatManBear t1_j7vni27 wrote

Well when you end up committing crimes while being a US LPR you tend to get yourself in trouble and deported.

> “Whatever charges got a combat veteran deported are irrelevant,” he said. “No one deserves to be deported after sacrificing, doing the things these young men and I had to do. These young men died over there. They were destroyed over there. They were other things when they came home.”

I really wouldn't want someone who has a violent criminal history to get citizenship to be honest. If it is non-violent crime that does not involve crimes involving moral turpitude I don't have an issue giving them another chance.

Also not everyone who served did it honorably or is a good person. I worked with plenty of bad people while I served and deployed with them knowing they were not good people.

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hydrOHxide t1_j7w4r25 wrote

You do realize that can mean an unwillingness to take responsibility for the consequences of their service? Traumatizing people and when they snap, kicking them to the curb?

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sharksnut t1_j87pc3k wrote

They did.

Then, they committed (and were convicted of) felonies, which breaks the deal.

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