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SilverNicktail t1_j9l1yrd wrote

If Biden and Dems want the youth vote in '24, making federal legalisation an election promise is a good way IMO. He can already show progress on taxation, climate, infrastructure, etc. (Yes, before you start, I know none of those things are done or perfect, but progress is always the point and they represent large steps.)

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DefTheOcelot t1_j9m83tr wrote

A promise he could not keep. The federal support isnt there.

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SilverNicktail t1_j9m925i wrote

With so many states legalising, and society somehow managing to not suddenly collapse under a hemp apocalypse, I think the inflection point is pretty near.

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DefTheOcelot t1_j9mbbgc wrote

I give it another decade.

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XylatoJones t1_j9meog3 wrote

We don’t have another decade lol

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indescentproposal t1_j9my65t wrote

i’m sure the Germans have a word for the sad laugh of resignation…

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Fish_Slapping_Dance t1_j9nouqj wrote

>sad laugh of resignation

Trauriges lachen des Rücktritts

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exterminans666 t1_j9nri5p wrote

Nice try Google translator.

I do not know a perfect fit, "das traurige Lachen der Resignation" would be a correct translation.

Resignation: to give up on something Rücktritt: to resign from a position.

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Delphizer t1_j9pocp5 wrote

59% are for rec and medical, a whopping 89% are for medical. He could instruct to remove it from it's place as a schedule 1 substance(No accepted medical use) today if he wanted.

Congress could undo it, but they wouldn't.

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[deleted] t1_j9nh76b wrote

They left off marijuana banking act in the latest budget. With a dem president and majority dem senate. If they won’t do it….who will

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/marijuana-banking-left-out-of-congressional-spending-bill-senate-source-confirms/

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SilverNicktail t1_j9nm9td wrote

> Despite Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) “making a last ditch effort” to put cannabis banking reform in the omnibus, as one senior Democratic Senate staffer put it last week, negotiations failed to produce a package that includes the measure.

Yeah, let's point the finger at the Democrats, when this couldn't happen because the GOP have the House (which you conveniently ignored in your comment).

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[deleted] t1_j9ocsyj wrote

Ok, that’s fine, republicans own the house. So what does that mean? We have to wait till the dems are in control of everything??

I’m a democrat. I’m not pointing fingers at anyone. I work in the cannabis field, and feel really let down. Don’t you fell like that too?

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SilverNicktail t1_j9pi20a wrote

>Ok, that’s fine, republicans own the house. So what does that mean? We have to wait till the dems are in control of everything??

Have you been completely ignorant of GOP obstruction in the modern era? Yes, the Democrats need a majority to do almost anything because the GOP refuse to work with them. If they are not voted to a majority, you will receive no progress on anything other than enriching the rich, and broadcasting lies about fictional laptops.

Blaming the Democrats for not being able to put legislation through places where the GOP are in control is insane, and yet people do it constantly.

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[deleted] t1_j9ppe7x wrote

No, I understand that.

I think the guy up top that said at least a decade is probably correct.

Dems and republicans are one and the same. They are one and the same.

Here’s my states two democrats I get to keep in office every few years.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/09/18/wyden-blumenauer-and-their-wives-made-stock-trades-that-raise-conflict-of-interest-questions-nyt-says/

Rich guys doing rich guy stuff, it’ll never change.

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SilverNicktail t1_j9pyvdb wrote

> Dems and republicans are one and the same. They are one and the same.

They're demonstrably, blatantly not. To pretend otherwise is to promote voter apathy and enable the GOP's violent fascist rhetoric.

Are the Democrats "good"? - no, I'd like to have an actual progressive party that will do the necessary work to overturn corporate sponsorship of authoritarianism. Does that make them the same as the GOP? No. Members of the GOP are currently proposing, among other things:

  • The abolition of all income taxation
  • The abolition of all social spending
  • The abolition of THE UNITED STATES

The Democrats may not be the party we want, but to call them the same helps only our enemies.

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[deleted] t1_j9q5lqk wrote

Ok, sorry. Your right. Both sides love money and only vote to fill their pockets.

Give me a list of people who arnt so I can start voting that way.

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[deleted] t1_j9q67o0 wrote

Who do you get to vote for who dosnt do anything shady?

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[deleted] t1_j9q8q7e wrote

I live in Portland oregon, where I vote for some of the most liberal people in the country to hold office.

Yet, I can’t go to target down the street to buy diapers without stepping over needles. There’s over 6,000 homeless people on the street, and ravaging our public parks. Hearing gunshots is very normal now. So you tell me. Why are these “progressives” failing so hard to run a decent city?

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[deleted] t1_j9pr8en wrote

To go with that link I shared. Blumenauer campaigned hard saying he was going to get that legislation passed. And to hear it didn’t go through, and see him “accidentally” purchase 15k in Raytheon stock right when they decide to fund Ukraine with weapons, leaves a salty taste in my mouth.

But I’ll vote for him every time, because he’s in the “better” party.

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bloodavocado t1_j9lb8tv wrote

Do you think the youth vote will show up after they misfired on student loan forgiveness?

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Fraxcat t1_j9ldkkm wrote

They who? It was the Republicans that blocked it.

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ZaxonsBlade t1_j9lgoe3 wrote

Republicans be like “can’t believe you like money too, we should hang out.”

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sharksnut t1_j9lify0 wrote

It was the courts that blocked it because it isn't a Presidential power without legislation. This isn't a dictatorship. Yet.

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lordofedging81 t1_j9m4sju wrote

Who took the case against student loan forgiveness to the courts? Guess...

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SilverNicktail t1_j9luwfq wrote

From what I recall, they tried to do it and Republicans blocked it. I don't really count that as a misfire.

A misfire in that sense would be more like the Lib Dems in the UK promising to do it, but forming a coalition with The Bloody Tories to get into power, in which they were the minority. They couldn't do it, the Tories and the Tory press blamed them, and they fell so far back out of power that we are essentially back to a two-party system. On top of that, they gave Cameron power, which is the domino that led the UK to its current shitbiscuit status.

Which the youth vote in the USA may want to take a few lessons from...

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LessThanLoquacious t1_j9lvaq6 wrote

Considering he hasn't fulfilled any campaign promises so far, and has just simped for corporate profits, he can sit on a cactus if he thinks I'm voting for him.

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SilverNicktail t1_j9m73vq wrote

I mean given how absolutist and stridently incorrect you are, I'm going to doubt you voted the first time around. I listed a number of things this Congress has made progress on (because imagining that the government consists of one person is childish), but I can go through specifics if you'd like them?

Politifact's tracker shows him at 25% promises completed, 35% in progress, 32% stalled (guess why) and exactly 1% broken.

"Any".

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