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LeTreacs t1_jbbn03k wrote

Reply to comment by GreasyPeter in Podcaster saves boy and his brothers from being abused by their adoptive father by montanoj88

Alright fellas, don’t try and stand up for equality too hard or people are gonna assume you’re a sexual predator.

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johnjeudiTitor t1_jbbtzmj wrote

idk he kinda has a point about "overly vocal"

if you actually give a fuck about women you shouldn't need to broadcast it, your actions speak for themselves. It really does seem to be the loudest ones that are the worst hypocrites, and this goes for anything

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weakhamstrings t1_jbcs13v wrote

The person they are replying to edited the word "every" to instead say "many" thus making the previous person's response look really inflammatory

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barsoapguy t1_jbbx0lv wrote

Well realistically they’re probably loud IN PERSON at events where they can meet and impress women.

I mean I guess if it works then that’s just how they play the game. 🤷🏿‍♂️

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LeTreacs t1_jbc19kt wrote

Silence is consent. And silence where life and liberty is at stake, where by a timely protest we could stay the destoyer's hand, and do not do so, is as criminal as giving actual aid to the oppressor, for it answers his purpose.

  • Ernestine Rose
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johnjeudiTitor t1_jbc5guz wrote

I agree with the quote, it's true.

however (and I'll admit I'm not sure), if this is in argument to my comment it would mean that you think I'm equating "overly vocal" with saying anything at all. Which, by definition of the words, I'm not

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LeTreacs t1_jbcese1 wrote

It’s an expansion of my point.

Hypocrites are loud, but that doesn’t mean the loudest voices are Hypocrites. You know, all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares kinda thing.

True equality between the sexes will come when we’re all in agreement, and this kind of rhetoric that any outwardly spoken man for feminism is likely to be guilty of sexual assault stops men from wanting to actually help be part of the movement.

Half the population can’t achieve equality alone, but Reddit does love its outrage I suppose

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johnjeudiTitor t1_jbcmjin wrote

i simply disagree, and i avoided making that generalization so please understand me:

i do not think that we will be furthered into equality by having more outspoken men.

even if what they're saying is supportive, I think true equality is easier to reach by actions.

Also no one is outraged, but if you have to invent parts of my position just to argue with it there's not much point in continuing this conversation

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LeTreacs t1_jbcpzwt wrote

I didn’t say you made the generalisation, but it was made further up the thread.

Men need to be on board with equality to have equality. That requires some men to be out spoken. We just disagree on this point.

Speaking is an action, if someone’s being sexist and you say that’s wrong, you have taken an action.

I’m not outraged, I’m not saying you’re outraged. It’s a generally statement about Reddit in general

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KaimeiJay t1_jbcbk92 wrote

Hey, don’t shoot the messenger. Blame the men who are ruining it for everyone else.

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GreasyPeter t1_jbcjew8 wrote

If they make a point of constantly telling people or bringing it up just so they can show how good of an ally they are. Nobody says you can't or shouldn't defend women's rights and equality when it actually comes up, but if a dude is bringing it up a lot, it might be because they're insecure about something they've done or wish to do.

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