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Surfs_The_Box t1_irz4gu9 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York residents who don't want to choose a gender can now choose "X" as a gender marker on a New York State license by maxcrazy

I'm going to check the license and when I give report I am going to call in your age and gender if it's not already obvious to me.

Idk why that's hard to understand.

Will me not being sure of your bits keep me from providing standard of care? No.

But it's fucking ridiculous to have the system acknowledge such a thing that goes AGAINST what identification is intended for. Doctors absolutely will need to know your sex for the best standard of care.

Sorry it triggers you.

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mbbysky t1_irz686t wrote

Rather than wonder whether a solution exists to maintain that standard of care WHILE respecting various gender expressions, you call this all "nonsense" and "ridiculous"

Very telling

My guess: you care more about how this affects YOU and YOUR potential liability than you do any patient outcomes. The rest is a rationalization, and you've probably internalized it to the point that this comment will enrage you and you'll lean in with defending yourself and your character... Because again, this is all about you

ETA: You literally posted another comment all about how it "does me no good as a first responder," so, looks like I was right.

If you're thinking to reply by citing examples of how it could cause medical complications, then let's circle back to the start: How do address this without throwing this out entirely? If you won't entertain the idea, then you're not about patient outcomes, you're just about resisting change.

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EAygge t1_irzlq73 wrote

A side note. Is it not perfectly OK to worry about ones liability? I would not want to cause me or my employer damages just by doing my job. Why would that ever be an issue?

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Surfs_The_Box t1_irz7jde wrote

No I mean like men and women are different like medically and surgery and hormones will not change a lot of the differences especially in terms of signs and symptoms

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[deleted] t1_irz50zs wrote

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Surfs_The_Box t1_irz5gqm wrote

No it means you can have ectopic pregnancy, you can menstruate potentially altering your RBC count. Women have higher instance of thyroid storm, myxedema coma. Ovarian cysts, etc. Etc. Etc. I could go on and on.

Women physiologically present differently than men when considering signs and symptoms from heart attacks to dissecting aortic aneurysms.

Women in general are very different from men and you not understanding that is fine but take a step back and ponder over the fact that you might not know what you are talking about.

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[deleted] t1_irz5qbr wrote

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Surfs_The_Box t1_irz7vga wrote

Like sure you have some points. But physiologically you are your original gender and a lot of your physiology will not change with your changed gender assignment.

Signs and symptoms and various disease processes will still apply according to your xy or xx chromosomes. Women and men are just different in certain ways that affect how we treat patients.

Edit: if the ID were to be more of use they would indicate origin gender and the new one. Would give us an idea if you menstruate, or what hormones are affecting your body.

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[deleted] t1_irz8t0f wrote

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Surfs_The_Box t1_irz9hf2 wrote

I just do not like being called a bad provider like some have done on this thread just because I think that knowing the birth gender of my patient is important.

Like to sugges your birth organs and hormones have nothing to do with patient care is ludicrous to suggest.

I can't tell you how important it is to arriving to a 911 call and helping someone figure out if their medical complaint is potentially fatal or not. Signs and symptoms are so different from men to women.

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Haunting-Key-3116 t1_irzdwi0 wrote

Thank goodness it is just a small negligible percentage of people who don’t understand why this matters in the EMS world and make a big deal out it. Thanks for your service

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crushbyrichardsiken t1_is0v0c6 wrote

happy to keep chatting in dms if you're curious, but otherwise I'm going to delete everything as I've started getting harassment comments. you're right in that they have no idea if you're a good provider based on the teaspoon of info here, that's ridiculous and obscene. I'm sorry people are saying things like that.

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