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Over-Analyzed t1_is01wei wrote

Reply to comment by ImAHardWorkingLoser in Rare plant thought to be extinct discovered on Kamehameha Schools land on Hawaiʻi Island : Maui Now by Open-Satisfaction-36

Nah, you’re trying to justify ignorance. 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I’m not saying not knowing the connection to Kamehameha the King but understanding that it’s Hawaiian and not a Japanese Animated character.

Let me ask you how you would feel if people made cheap jokes about your culture, heritage, etc? Or do you not have any connection to one in particular? Perhaps you don’t understand how tiresome ignorance of other cultures can be?

The word Haole is becoming a matter of fact. As I said, a few? Okay, but the entire thread? Really?

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ImAHardWorkingLoser t1_is05o1e wrote

>Nah, you’re trying to justify ignorance.

Alright, if you're so adamant about it, then make of it what you will

>I’m not saying not knowing the connection to Kamehameha the King but understanding that it’s Hawaiian and not a Japanese Animated character.

Before this thread, I thought Kamehameha was a word created for DB so....

>Let me ask you how you would feel if people made cheap jokes about your culture, heritage, etc? Or do you not have any connection to one in particular? Perhaps you don’t understand how tiresome ignorance of other cultures can be?

Dude, you're talking to the wrong guy. People assume a very important cultural and religious symbol of mine is just a sign for neo-nazis and hate groups simply coz they recognize swastika as the symbol of Nazi party rather than the thousands of years old part of Hinduism. But I don't go about grilling them on reddit simply coz I know they are unaware of the history of swastika and the negative connection is all they know. I just try to educate them about its importance and move on.

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SweetLuf t1_is07c7z wrote

Someone must’ve blew a rasengan up his ass this morning

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Over-Analyzed t1_is084ym wrote

Yeah a tourist who ignored all warnings, destroyed the reef, tried taking rocks from a heiau, and tried to pick up a sea turtle. People who are disrespectful about a culture that is close to my heart. It’s frustrating. A few jokes? Okay. But the entire thread? Really? Why is everyone so fixated on cultural ignorance? A culture that was damn nearly wiped out by Americans.

Would you be making these jokes if it were Native Americans instead?

You’re kinda proving my point. Instead of understanding the need to acknowledge other cultures. You favor ignorance and poor assumptions. It doesn’t sound like you read the article.

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SweetLuf t1_is1m6qc wrote

You’re actually correct I didn’t read the article. But whilst I think you were being a bit hyperbolic in your replies, I get where you’re coming from. I wouldn’t want to see Hawaiian culture disappear, and certainly not Native Americans either (what’s left of it at this point no thanks to colonialism).

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Over-Analyzed t1_is27h3g wrote

I was a little over defensive. But come on? 90% of the thread is people talking about DBZ. I love the show. Every guy I knew watched it.

What happened to Native Americans is horrific. Hawaii was more politically achieved without bloodshed. The last monarch Queen Liliuokalani forbade her followers from taking action. She didn’t want any lives lost.

The culture and language has made a resurgence but there is no way to restore all that was lost. People want to move here but locals can’t afford to buy a home for their families. The average price for a family house is $1 Million. I’m a pretty social person but even I want to tell tourists not to move here. I could probably inherit my parents’ house somewhere down the line. Although I can’t imagine my heartbreak when that time comes. I don’t know if I’ll be able to get my own.

Hawaii has its issues. There’s no doubt about that. But there’s also a lot of pride that comes with it.

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Over-Analyzed t1_is06brd wrote

There’s a difference in context. Here you are given context and you and so many others ignore that context. That is ignorance. The fact that you are arguing with me shows a pride in that ignorance. Instead of understanding my frustration.

It would be no different than someone showing a Hindu temple and pointing to that symbol and claiming “Nazis were here.” They have context but ignore the cultural cues and choose their own view, dismissing any other possibility. Then have that joke repeated endlessly.

Who exactly am I grilling? I’m venting my frustrations at the ignorance of people. That instead of looking things up they assume DBZ. If you had gone through what I’m angered about then why didn’t you look things up? You’re just as ignorant as those you are frustrated with. Why do you assume?

I mean, did you even bother to read the article?

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ImAHardWorkingLoser t1_is090t0 wrote

Ok

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Over-Analyzed t1_is09aak wrote

😐 Just because it happened to you and you’re okay with it. Doesn’t mean I have to be.

Look at the comments, aside from a small handful everyone is talking about DBZ. Don’t get me wrong, I love the show. But really? The entire thread. Uplifting news while ignoring an entire culture’s existence, history, and language. What fun!

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TheTruthenatorer t1_is0snbc wrote

>Let me ask you how you would feel if people made cheap jokes about your culture, heritage, etc?

I have mostly Irish heritage. I've been to Ireland multiple times, I love the music, the people, the food, and the culture. I also don't throw a hissy fit when people associate St. Patrick's day with drinking.

Get over yourself. I'm sorry that the most popular ability from an extremely popular anime is more well known than some king who died a century and a half ago, but if you expected it to be any different then I hope this has been a reality check for you.

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Over-Analyzed t1_is1egi7 wrote

Your culture is celebrated. Hawaiian culture was banned and nearly destroyed. Also, if anyone bothered to read the article they may yet learn something. I wouldn’t be bothered by a few jokes but the entire thread of people ignorant of an entire culture? Hello Ethnocentrism my old friend.

Would you treat Native Americans with the same disrespect?

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