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SilverNicktail t1_isce6ez wrote

It's genuinely encouraging seeing how quickly LGBT rights are progressing in that area of the world.

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dingodoyle OP t1_iscg5y2 wrote

LGB rights haven’t moved an inch, but in practice, no one gets prosecuted for engaging in homosexual relations because the evidentiary standards are impractically high. I’ve heard about an orgy that happens at some shrine and the cops kinda don’t give a shit. 😂

https://www.bbc.com/news/23811826

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2PAK4U t1_isecn8r wrote

This article is pretty old btw

I have heard of many Lgbt parties being informally hosted by European Diplomats in Karachi today(not the orgies/group thing from what I remember)

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RichardsLeftNipple t1_iscc295 wrote

Something you'd never expect from Pakistan.

Cynically I would not expect transgender people to willingly self identify to anyone in Pakistan especially the government. Then again, I know very little about how such things are going in Pakistan.

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dingodoyle OP t1_iscew8f wrote

Traditionally there’s actually a lot more acceptance of transgender folks than stereotypes would have one expect.

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RichardsLeftNipple t1_iscyb3a wrote

That's pretty cool I gotta say.

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2PAK4U t1_isecqqf wrote

Transgender being the middle ground an umbrella for any other orientation is pretty much normally accepted in Pak

just display of affection or rising homosexuality is what concerns people over there

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saltmarsh63 t1_isg8m4w wrote

Very cool, and something America desperately needs. But an entire political party is against everyone voting, because they’d lose every election.

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SuperMarv t1_isctyoi wrote

OR---they are identifying them for when the time comes...?

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dingodoyle OP t1_iscv5ml wrote

😑 That’s not really a thing in Pakistan at least not by the state. Bigotry from the people here and there exists everywhere and Pakistan is no exception. But generally there’s a degree of acceptance in society as a member of society though of course not close to perfect.

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Eis_Gefluester t1_isdr9xb wrote

Why would you have to register transgender people? That sounds very sus to me.

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dingodoyle OP t1_isduz8o wrote

Lol it’s not a registry just for transgendered people, like Trump tried to get a Muslim registry. Everyone is supposed to have national ID cards (or foreign passports with valid visas) used for everything like getting SIM cards, going to school, voting, etc. Transgender folks were officially recognized in a 2018 law so you don’t need to designate yourself as male or female only anymore. Since there’s been lower uptake of these ID cards amongst underprivileged folks, this initiative is meant to provide convenience to increase uptake and more involvement in democratic political processes. Nothing remotely nefarious here.

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Eis_Gefluester t1_isdvyjr wrote

Ok, the thing with underprivileged folks being more likely to have no ID card makes sense and helping them vote is great, it just sounds a bit weird to single out transgender people. I mean, if a person is transgender or not isn't dependent on their societal status, but I can see how underprivileged people not having an ID card might face additional trouble if they're transgender want to get an ID card. The thought of people not having ID cards in the first place just didn't occur to me (stupid European privilege).

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dingodoyle OP t1_isdy1v1 wrote

It’s not just transgendered folks being singled. These vans were meant for the convenience of old folks and disabled but they tacked on transgender folks too. If it helps uptake, then why not bring the registration service to their doorstep?

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