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Sabz5150 t1_itx599l wrote

Reply to comment by Kallasilya in Women will have equal share of seats in [New Zealand] Parliament with Soraya Peke-Mason's swearing-in by giblefog

>Yeah, because women LITERALLY weren't allowed to even apply for these roles until recently

Women helped win WWII in such jobs. Turns out they are fantastic welders.

>and there's still massive sexism within a lot of manual labour industries

Blue collar manual worker here. No. The women that do work here would not tolerate it. That stereotype is breathing its last breath thankfully.

> It's almost like (gasp) increased equality in the workplace could help to solve this issue too!

Its about making the proverbial horse drink, there is water all around. Its not all that high paying, not clean at all, and in rather undesirable temperatures at times. Not exactly what you described as the jobs that women are gunning for. Is there a drive to get women into blue collar like there is with STEM?

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Kallasilya t1_itzbet5 wrote

Despite (I assume, forgive me if incorrect) not being a woman and (from what I can see) not being active in any feminist subs or spaces, you apparently think you already know all the answers to the issues of workplace gender politics. I don't really have any more energy in trying to discuss this with you as it seems you're not interested in considering other viewpoints. Cheers.

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Sabz5150 t1_itznec4 wrote

>you apparently think you already know all the answers to the issues of workplace gender politics.

Well they teach us this in the industry: if you have to force it, you are doing something wrong.

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Kallasilya t1_itzot24 wrote

Ah yes, as we know, all social change has been brought about by groups of people quietly sitting back and doing nothing.

;)

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Sabz5150 t1_itzpc87 wrote

Its also never been rammed down one's throat. That's what the Right does.I am not saying change should not happen, but it should not be forced with quotas and the like.

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Kallasilya t1_itzqg0h wrote

Okay I said I'd let this drop but I can't let that take stand... Women got the vote by going on hunger strike, smashing windows, and setting shit on fire! Societal change (not just for women but for all groups) has always been 'forced'. It's the only thing that's ever worked.

And the people in power have never, ever liked it either. But give it a few decades and hopefully all of these measures will be in the past.

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