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I'm going to have very mixed feelings if this ends with history naming Putin as the saviour of the world

If that's the great irony that'll take to do it, I'll do it in a heartbeat.

I'll sooner prefer his name removed from history. But if this makes him infamous, that's a second option

At the beginning of the war, I had mentioned that Putin could go down as the biggest promoter of renewables, green-energy and energy independence.

Not the savior, but the catalyst. The straw that broke the camel's back as it were

Similarly, Hitler really helped to eliminate antisemitism. Most of Europe was quite antisemitic (though not to... *that...*level) before the war. That changed very quickly afterwards

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Fuck yeah. Let's do this. Keep fighting, it's working

Adolf Hitler paradoxically lead Europe into an age of unprecedented unity (the European Union), decline of open imperialism (GB, France, Japan, and many more gave up their imperialistic ambitions), and decades of insane technological and economical advances.

Hitler is not - and of course should not - be known for “doing” all that, because it was not what he had in mind.

In the same vein, Putin will not become “the savior”, even if his actions ultimately help the global society. He did not plan on helping, and he is not going to be credited for it.

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Just as Hitler created a problem that others solved, I doubt Putin will be remembered for driving innovation here.

Just goes to show you that Samuel L Jackson character from kingsman had a point.

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Can someone explain what it means to "limit global warming to 1.5C"?

And Trump will go down as the President who inspired greater voter participation in even midterm elections

Thanks, Russia.

It means reducing greenhouse gas emissions so much that they only accumulate enough to increase the temperature of the planet 1.5C. Before the war nobody really thought pollution would stop before the planet warmed 2C or more.

This also shows that the humans species could have, at any moment, dumped the use of unrenewable energy and switched over to entirely sustainable sources. It never required an illegal invasion by Russia to force this to happen - humanity could have done it years ago, if they wanted to.

And there is nothing stopping the world from moving over entirely in less than ten years - indeed less than two years if it was made a priority above all others.

The same is true of providing housing for all, food for all, water for all, and medicine for all. It could be done, the world could do it, and could do it easily.

They just won't until they are forced, because humanity allows oligarchs to rule them.

That this is happening proves that point, a very old point, one we have all heard our entire lives.

I am glad that the issue has been forced, but I am sad that the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians were what made it happen. I am sad that had to be the reason anything is finally changing at all - because fuel is being withheld and used as a political weapon.

Humans should be going renewable because they want to save their world, not because they want to keep profit margins up despite a brutal war.

But, take what victories one can, right?

This is a good thing.

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^ this is the right take

This is not shared by any international organization. The dominant consensus is that it would be great to keep it under 2.5...

The warming of the earth another 1.5C-2C more or less is a point of no return for global warming. If that happens there is no fixing things in anyone's life time that is alive today. They have been talking about this for a decade or two and its not far off if nothing changes.

No, Jackson's character believed that humanity was a virus that needed to be culled and contained. This story is about how we could have shifted, but didn't because it was cheaper.

What really blows my mind is the missed opportunity by China (and India to an extent). Instead of sinking trillions into building useless highways, buildings, and entire cities, all in the name of growing gdp, they could have dumped it into renewables.

Instead they're expanding the use of coal to continue to power their industry. Morons.

He also helped to eradicate most vivid racism and eugenics eugenics etc from the USA. (from where he got those ideas in the first place)

To the point that is not rememberer to the proper extent.

To everyone saying "it's an artificial crisis"

I say good because the last fucking 30 years we have accomplished next to nothing when it comes to preserving the climate. It hurts like hell, but at least we're doing something now...

Neither of these topics were eliminated or eradicated ... they were temporarily reduced or regressed but they have always remained. These traits are still there, they are still a force in society, they just are not as popular as they once were. Place the right amount of propaganda around anything and you can make the public believe anything .... even in this day in age.

Only some will die instead of most.

Solar is the cheapest per KW source of energy, that we are not already mostly on it is purely because a very small amount of very powerful people profit from the continued use of fossil fuels.

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Additionally it is cheaper than nuclear by similar margins and the only reason you still see people pushing nuclear energy is because of the propaganda pushed by a similar minority that stands to profit from nuclear power expanding.

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Never mind.

They are doing both, actually.

China has one third of the worldwide solar generation installed, and is increasing the lead.

I really hope these are real renewables and not greenwashed bullshit like biomass.

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Wind is marginally cheaper when capacity weighted.

Fossil fuel gas is still cheaper in some areas and coal costs less up front (but not after running it for a couple of years). These margins are rapidly shrinking though.

The overriding biggest advantage of renewables is stability, predictability and security. Sunlight doesn't suddenly jump to $1000/MWh or develop corrosion issues that take all winter to fix.

I have always said this: humanity never tries to solve a problem until it's too late to solve it.

World hunger will be the next issue on the docket after energy, but only after all wildlife and sea life have been harvested to extinction and/or indirectly killed by industrial negligence. This event horizon is, of course, further accelerated by the continued rise in the human population.

Because humans will never, ever learn.

Putin wins on a technicality!

I'm pretty sure China has invested a lot into renewables but found they couldn't meet the energy demand so they built a bunch of new coal plants as well

Yes but instead of building a ton of useless buildings that they later blew up, or the various empty cities with no purpose, they could have gone even bigger on renewables.

we couldn't have done it though, because money.

Money determines everything. We live in a world society based on greed. Not that people are individually greedy, but our entire system is FOUNDED on greed, so people can't really live a good life without operating under that system of greed. We need to change the foundation of our societies.

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This is a bit too late but better too late than never...

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The Holocaust exterminated most European Jews. Afterward there weren't many Jews left to be a focal point for antisemitism