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Russia: Panics.

Wind gives usable power 1/8 of the time.

Solar gives usable power 3/8 of the time.

Good luck.

And tidal?

And when you throw them all into the mix together?

Germany has spent $2T on green energy in the last 5 years. Can't heat their homes with the stuff.

Renewable energy accounts for about 51% of Germany's energy usage, and its increasing.

I'm not sure what angle you are trying to play here. This is a good thing.

Rich people are starting to realize that they'll be just as fucked as all the poors unless they start acting on climate change.

Yes because clearly those are our only options for renewable energy and of course we must only choose one. There is no easy fix for climate change. Fixing what’s broken will require a lot of different changes. Don’t try to discredit a step in the right direction just because it didn’t fix the whole problem

Are they really?

This seems pretty shortsighted. Perhaps you’re just trolling but do you expect some magic silver bullet that replaces fossil fuels overnight? It is a huge problem and only a collection of solutions over decades will eradicate them. Solar, wind, wave, nuclear are all part of that solution.

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Germany's power production is 55% fossil fuel, 13% nuclear, 35% renewable. Their power use is 51% fossil fuel, 13% nuclear and 38% renewable and 5% imports. Renewable in this case is 6% solar and 12% wind, 10% biomass reactors, and about 5% hydroelectric dams. Minor production from geothermal and kinetic power.

Even the most generous sources put germany's power production and use at 45% renewable.

Nah

I wish others understood how the big renewable lie is hurting the world

Teach us

yeah? please go into detail

We are all dying to learn now

Is the truth somewhere on Hunter Biden's laptop?

When cyber bullying starts happening I feel even more vindicated

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After I graduated as an electrical engineer I thought solar and storage was the answer. I designed wireless power transfer systems for vehicles to become mobile power storages for the grid

And then I started working and realized the difference between research and real-life

The best resources I can share are from these professionals

https://www.linkedin.com/in/zionlights

https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewakker

Another place to learn: watch Planet of the Humans

Was that cyber bullying? I thought it was a joke.

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Yeah that is often how the human psyche works. They hold a position and twist and warp any criticism into validation. It is a maladoption.

Source: "If I wasn't right, why would so many people be telling me I'm wrong?"

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2022 is the year when the global warming trend turned the corner. It's still gonna be warmer but not going to run away into ruin.

My joke comment aside, I think while this guy made his case in the vaguest, most asshole-ish way possible, the point he's trying to get across is sound. Basically these profiles are advocating for nuclear energy over wind/solar, which a lot of big environmental groups are actually advocating for, and I'd cautiously support.

I've done some renewable energy-focused work and long story short, nuclear energy's highly misunderstood and come a long way in modern times. Wind and solar technology has pretty limited energy output atm, and while like any other technology, that'll change with time and research, given our tight timeframe to reduce carbon emissions if we wanna avert global disaster, nuclear's looking like the more feasible option.

That's not to say more wind or solar's bad, especially in regions with sunnier and/or windier climates, nuclear just seems to be more feasible on a global level.

Right. It's like calling the Mona Lisa ugly for having Bell's Palsy. Be cautiously optimistic for our energy securities friends, and I hope nobody is freezing this winter.

Like the attitude. Yes, the most SUSTAINABLE form of energy is nuclear, no doubt

I just want to highlight how we feel uplifted by renewables when we’re truly deluding ourselves with it

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Fellow electrical engineer here. Then explain why China, a no nonsense country filled with engineers that only cares about profit, is converting the Gobi desert into a solar farm that will produce twice the amount of energy from solar in the U.S. by 2030? The last thing this volatile world, that's constantly at risk of destruction via nuclear war, needs is an abundance of fissile material in human hands.

Good. Maybe they can invent a motor that runs on wheat

Boron is the key to unlocking this new potential for renewables and offers a more efficient and inexpensive way to produce fuel than ever before. Look for FEAM to make waves in the renewable energy industry in the next five years!

Yeah I'm sure the keystone pipeline shitting oil all over is helping the world eh?

Oil companies know they have more time if we just keep chasing a nuclear dream.

Wind and solar passed the holy grail and became cheaper than Fossil Fuels within the last 5 years in many areas.

I wish that was uplifting, but it's not really - currently 13% of the world's energy consumption is met by renewables. This means it's going to take at least 5 years before we reach 25% (and that's assuming energy use stays flat, which is hugely unlikely given total energy use grew by 7% in the last 5 years). So... at this "uplifting" pace, we are many years away from even halving use of fossil fuels, and those are years that we don't have.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-consumption-by-source-and-country

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If they only care about profit then making a solar farm which shows off the tech that they produce and sell is no doubt a marketing tactic.

Do you think they truly care about sustainability more than profit?

They wouldn't make a solar farm of anywhere near that scale if they just wanted to show off and promote their tech. The investment is going to cost them a ridiculous amount of money and when 2030 rolls around the tech isn't even going to be state of the art.

No. But I think they've seen the same data I have and concluded that solar energy is cheap and abundant and not subject to the whims of OPEC+.

And if they make even more money off of sales then it’s worth it.

We spent more on nuclear power. And we make a lot of money off of it

This solar is just marketing tactics. Cause they know people falsely believe it’s sustainable.

Meanwhile they are quietly building more nuclear plants than any other country in history.

https://thediplomat.com/2022/09/powering-chinas-nuclear-ambitions/

They may very well have a cleaner country than most in the very near future

Marketing tactic? It will produce 455 GW of power. And how is solar unsustainable?

They are also building more solar and more coal plants than any other country. They're the richest country with the most people, this isn't surprising that they're building the most nuclear too.

How is solar unsustainable? What happens when the sun no longer shines on panels? Is the need for electricity no longer there?

How is solar unsustainable? What happens when the sun no longer shines on panels? Is the need for electricity no longer there?

This is your argument....? I honestly thought I would've heard something I haven't heard a thousand times from people without electrical engineering degrees.

If you want more details then there is this pretty cool website called Google.

Or, feel free to scroll up and follow any of the 5 different resources that that I linked earlier.

Although if you really wanted to understand what I mean you would have done this already.

At this point I think you are purposely deluding yourself too

You think governments spending countless billions around the world haven't thought of that? There are innumerable methods of storing energy during the off hours. And I don't know what articles you're referring to, all I see is those two linkedin links. Furthermore, I don't see how the misinformed idea that you can't store energy during the off hours makes renewables "unsustainable". The future will likely be a mix of multiple sources of energy for generations. We absolutely should be attempting to replace unclean and expensive energy with clean and cheap energy. It makes no sense not to.

I used to think the same way - truly - I even developed wireless power transfer tools for using car batteries for distributed storage.

It’s the sustainability of storage that’s the problem - it costs too much and it doesn’t last long enough.

The thing is normal people vote for politicians who vote to spend billions on tech like this which doesn’t actually solve the problem.

We blow money like nobodies business

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That'd honestly be amazing.

Then we could shout "To the glutenmobile"