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3OAM t1_j06rflt wrote
The bloodlust of Christian Republicans is wild.
PatrenzoK t1_j072nkz wrote
Lol top comment is someone supporting the death penalty but ends it by saying “I’m pretty liberal”. Some people really just are desensitized to what death really is.
great_gastly t1_j07efqo wrote
Top comment changed, and I'm always skeptical of people who say they are pretty liberal and then say something somewhat in opposition to that view. There's so much false information presented on the internet - It's crazy
star0forion t1_j07luv6 wrote
Why? I’m definitely a leftist in regards to social and economical issues. But I also support capital punishment in limited cases.
great_gastly t1_j08bwh4 wrote
Why am I skeptical and think people lie on the internet? lol
Saladcitypig t1_j06vv4l wrote
with a lot of people actually. Pretty bone chilling how gleeful people are at the concept of revenge warranted or not.
Like with Brittney Griner, people on reddit are literally angry she got home and isn't spending a century of her life doing hard labor (pretending. it about the arms dealer) ... and in the same breath wish we bomb Moscow... like... what??
People love to armchair murder, it's insane.
Pechumes t1_j06ygkg wrote
No one’s angry she’s back in the US. They are angry we released “the merchant of death”, one of the most notorious and dangerous arms dealers in the world. This dude plotted to sell missiles to the Taliban to shoot down U.S. passenger jets….
Mounta1nK1ng t1_j09fevc wrote
And he would have been released in 12 years anyway, and we would not have gotten anything for his release. This way we got an American citizen back.
He only had a 25 year sentence and was about halfway through it.
jazzysquid t1_j09jo7z wrote
He was going to be released in 2029, so not even 12 years
Pechumes t1_j09i6i4 wrote
That’s 12 years where he couldn’t be helping his buddy Putin secure arms for his army.
sherrib99 t1_j078bmb wrote
Exactly. All to get someone convicted on a weed charge out of prison. Meanwhile there are thousands of people all over the US doing time for weed. So I guess it’s ok to be in prison in the US for pot, but an absolute crime against humanity to be in prison in Russia for pot.
lessquiet t1_j07bo29 wrote
"someone convicted on a weed charge"
bruh, she's an Olympic Gold Medalist who represented the United States. She's not a random nobody. at least a Democrat President gives enough shits to do something. more than we can say for the previous one.
i think a lot of people are just mad as hell he fought to free a black woman and they're too chicken shit to say it out loud so they get they're clutching their pearls about a burnt arms dealer.
Pechumes t1_j07j70x wrote
Bruh, we released a dude who was actively trying to kill US civilians. We released him for someone who knowingly broke the law and brought weed into a foreign country. There are thousands of people locked up in the US for lesser charges than Griner. Her sexual orientation or race has absolutely no effect. I’d be saying the same thing if it was a straight white male (or any other combo of race and sexual preference).
“In 2011 Bout was convicted by a jury at a federal court in Manhattan, of conspiracy to kill U.S. citizens and officials, delivery of anti-aircraft missiles, and providing aid to a terrorist organization”
That’s it. That’s why people are upset. We released a dude who was trying to kill US civilians for a basketball player who was stupid enough to travel with weed in a foreign country run by a psychopath.
TenzenEnna t1_j084xfi wrote
He was going to get released regardless, he didn't have a life sentence or anything, we really just let him out 7 years early for the trade.
It's also worth noting that he worked WITH the CIA and none of them went away for working with him while "he was planning to kill U.S. Citizens and working with terrorists."
Pechumes t1_j0867zd wrote
Again- we released an incredibly dangerous international arms dealer for a dumbass who brought weed into Russia.
As for working WITH the CIA, you realize it was a sting operation right? No duh they’re going to “work with him” until they have enough evidence to convict him, which is what happened
TenzenEnna t1_j087cpu wrote
It was well documented that he was working FOR the CIA along with working with the Russians. He played the double game until we got tired of him.
Also how is he incredibly dangerous. He's a known person who was taken out of the game before Bitcoin was even invented. His knowledge of where shit was left after the collapse of the soviet union is unquestionably worthless.
I know it's important for the narrative that he matters, but there's a reason we were going to let him out of jail in the first place, because now he's just some random old man.
Pechumes t1_j08ag7f wrote
How is he incredibly dangerous?! He was one of the most prolific arms dealers in the world. He still has all of his knowledge, his contacts, and probably expanded his criminal network while in prison. But don’t take my word for it, listen to a veteran national security corespondent for Newsweek and Time.
“Braun disagrees with those who argue that Bout is a has-been, that his network has frayed and his business model collapsed. If anything, Braun says, Bout has probably made valuable contacts over the nearly dozen years he has spent in the U.S. prison system.
“Anyone who thinks he’s washed up and [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is not going to push him back into service, it’s beyond me,” Braun said. “People who believe that don’t understand how the real underworld works.”
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/12/12/viktor-bout-merchant-of-death-00073422
lessquiet t1_j0a3uhq wrote
> Her sexual orientation or race has absolutely no effect...
lol. I don't believe you.
Pechumes t1_j0adil3 wrote
I mean, it’s an objectively horrible trade. One of the most notorious arms dealers in the world vs a WNBA player. Giving up him for her and Paul whelan wouldn’t have been worth it either. He’s been responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. Now, he’s just joined the far right party in Russia, and could potentially run for parliament. He’s now free to help supply Putins army. This has nothing to do with Griner. Am I glad we have an American back home? Absolutely. Do I think she deserved to be locked up? Of course not. Was it worth it to trade her for the Merchant of death? Absolutely not.
sherrib99 t1_j07c9ea wrote
Yes of course, that’s the only possible explanation for disagreeing with the exchange
lessquiet t1_j07gu2d wrote
i mean, you're here parroting a GOP talking point instead of celebrating the POTUS bringing home a pair of Americans, so where's the lie?
sherrib99 t1_j07hmao wrote
Am I? I’m truly sorry for having varying opinions…. I am clearly a complete idiot incapable of having an independent thought….ugh how dare I. And I didn’t say anything about the previous guy that was released ( can’t remember the name) not sure why your lumping that in here…. Just looking to argue?
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