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inblue01 t1_j06z2of wrote

>you could make the case that nobody below 55 had any benefit taking the vaccine if not severely compromised by another illness

Somewhat agree, thus why I was truly irritated by the general vaccination strategy. Yet, I still think that most people generally benefit from vaccination. For example, a very common argument by anti-vaccine people is the risk of pericarditis after vaccination, which is indeed a reality. What they fail to realize is that there is also a risk of pericarditis from COVID, and that risk is much higher than from the vaccine.

Let's also not forget the sometimes severe (and also unreported) potential consequences of long COVID.


Star_x_Child t1_j07798g wrote

Not disagreeing with you, but I just want to add something to this, because I think it's relevant. There is a risk of pericarditis caused by viruses in general. I'll add my own anecdote, as an example, but there were plenty of people with pericarditis before Covid. In late 2020 (before vaccination rollout) I had post viral pericarditis (as in, pericarditis that came as an autoimmune response to a viral illness), and there was no evidence that I had had Covid prior to that. I'd been tested for Covid a bunch both before and during my initial pericarditis bout, but there were no signs it was from any of that. However, there were signs that I had gotten it as an autoimmune response to a cold-like illness. I had had the common cold about a month prior, and 3 different cardiologists, an infectious diseases Dr, and multiple internal medicine doctors all came to the conclusion (after about 3 in house Covid tests) that it was actually the cold that caused this.

I say this because I think people have some misconception that pericarditis is a new disease entirely. It isn't. Pericardial issues have been going on for a while and they can basically result from any illness, viral, parasitic, or fungal, that causes inflammation. It's not common, but it happens.

Getting vaccinated didn't trigger my pericarditis to recur, but every time I got sick with a cold or flu it would result in a recurrence the last 2 years. That doesn't mean the vaccines can't trigger it, but I think it's worth noting that the human body is capable of responding to just about anything perceived as a foreign attack in complex and unexpected ways.


inblue01 t1_j07ast7 wrote

Oh absolutely. I was hospitalized in 2005 after acute chest and left arm pain following 10+ days of a horrendous tonsilitis : myopericarditis. Scary stuff.


Star_x_Child t1_j07gtc1 wrote

Oh, that sucks! Sorry you went through that, even 17 years ago. DX

I remember quietly wondering if I was having a heart attack for several days a few times off and on. I went to the ER, they said my EKG was fine, Covid negative, went home and after a week it settled. Fast forward a few months, the same issue recurred, I came back to the same ER about it, they saw my EKG and told me I likely had pericarditis, but what's worse, is the doctor on call said he looked at my past EKG and said it matched; they'd missed my pericarditis diagnosis months prior. It sucked. And the meds just sent me back to the hospital again and again. XD

Did you end up on colchicine, too?