aKnightWh0SaysNi t1_j0dcw7x wrote on December 15, 2022 at 8:45 PM

Reply to comment by Kaz-Marie in Spanish MPs vote to approve new 'menstrual leave' for painful periods by mancinedinburgh

Letting somebody not work isn’t an accommodation. People should be paid to work.

Disability exists to compensate people who cannot.

If menstrual leave is given to people who cannot work for a few days every month like clockwork, it isn’t fair to ask the company to pay for that.

Kaz-Marie t1_j0deehz wrote on December 15, 2022 at 8:54 PM

Then what is an alternative solution you propose to accommodate those who are debilitated by menstrual pain and cannot work during those days?

aKnightWh0SaysNi t1_j0df282 wrote on December 15, 2022 at 8:58 PM

A program similar to disability where the burden of paying for the financial impact of their lack of predictable availability and productivity be shouldered by taxes, not by employers.

Someone needing this time off every month results in the employer receiving their salary from the government times 1.something to offset the major inconvenience of hiring someone with that requirement.

Otherwise, nobody will want to employ them.

Kaz-Marie t1_j0dguts wrote on December 15, 2022 at 9:10 PM

I appreciate the thoughtful response, that sounds like an excellent solution as well. I'm glad that the conversation around this is starting, as so many of us have been gaslit or flat out not believed when asking for help with menstrual pain accommodations - when I was a kid, it took me throwing up all over the floor in high school from pain for them to even consider letting me go home to rest. I hope the culture around forcing folks to work at normal capacity during intense periods can start to be dismantled.

For the method that Spain will be trying out, I trust (for now) their solid anti-descrimination laws around the workplace to prevent hiring descrimination. The US doesn't have as good protections in the same sense so I think a government based program like you suggested would work better here - anecdotally, employers here have been awful to my peers who have debilitating periods.