Submitted by mancinedinburgh t3_zmqb82 in UpliftingNews
amscraylane t1_j0esyxq wrote
Reply to comment by TrulyStupidNewb in Spanish MPs vote to approve new 'menstrual leave' for painful periods by mancinedinburgh
But if being black meant every 28 days a body part of theirs backfires resulting in debilitating cramps, diarrhea, nausea, changes in hormones, headaches, and blood coming from an orifice, I would be willing to understand they would need a day off and not look for analogies on why that would not be okay because it doesn’t happen to me.
nworb200 t1_j0fbcla wrote
Why should businesses pay two people the same amount when one takes more leave?
amscraylane t1_j0fh1o5 wrote
Why should two people have the same expectations when one has physical pain inflicted upon them every 28 days involuntarily?
And that physical pain costs the other person each month with pads, tampons, panty liners, Tylenol … and potential loss of clothing, possible embarrassment … and loss wages
nworb200 t1_j0fi2ro wrote
As an employer if I had two equal candidates but one had to take an extra month of leave per year(for whatever reason) I would hire the one that didn’t.
Wonderful-Assist2077 t1_j0g8qjl wrote
I read that female ceo's or women in high positions of power tend to not higher women because of issues like this and maternity leave etc. they want their workers to be there 100 percent of the time ya know to squeeze that extra min out of them.
Louloubelle0312 t1_j0gna1a wrote
And this is why we don't like republicans. The almighty dollar comes first. Let's not try to figure out a way someone can still do their job with a debilitating illness. Let's just throw them to the curb.
nworb200 t1_j0hk4mv wrote
Not a republican. The thing is the dollar comes first for you too, if not you would accept that someone who does less work should receive less pay.
Louloubelle0312 t1_j0hurpf wrote
Nope. The dollar does not come first for me. People do. And at no place did we say that less work is going to be done. And frankly, given the way men treat women, we deserve more.
nworb200 t1_j0hz3s4 wrote
So you just think women are naturally more productive than men and can achieve the same amount in less days?
Louloubelle0312 t1_j0gn2t8 wrote
Wow! Did you actually just think that? So, what? Women shouldn't work?
nworb200 t1_j0hi5v8 wrote
They should just take the same leave as men. Or earn less.
Louloubelle0312 t1_j0hvgu1 wrote
Nope. Absolutely not. You're taking a whole class of people that through no fault of their own, have to deal with this every month, FOR YEARS, and all you men act like it's nothing. Well it isn't. I guarantee if you were sick for an extended time, you'd be screaming about it. And by the way - we already earn less. It's rather like when people applauded Fred Astaire for being such an amazing dancer, and nobody paid attention to Ginger Rogers, who as she said had to do the same dance steps, in high heels, and backward, but no one thinks she should have gotten more.
nworb200 t1_j0hyxf2 wrote
Why is it some random businesses job to fund righting the wrongs that nature gave women?
TrulyStupidNewb t1_j0gsku2 wrote
It's not okay because the days off will affect women negatively by limiting their options for employment. Sometimes, the worst decisions come from good intentions. I just gave an extreme example of how a good idea can become a bad idea.
How about this? If you wanted to give paid women days off for their period, the correct way would be to also give paid days off for men too. This way, there is no uneven competition, which is equality. The time off can be flex, and you can use use 4 flex days in a row all at once, if you want.
This way, women can choose to use the flex days off during their periods if they want, or move it if they don't want. This also benefits women who don't have periods, such as older women, and well as men.
However, some companies already give flex days like that, so if a woman cares about flex days like that, right now, they can simply apply for those companies. For example, the company I work for gives flex time off, paid, for both men and women, regardless of period or not.
amscraylane t1_j0gvehs wrote
We have a level playing field now. Every one shows up to work, but half of the workforce has to pretend they not menstruating. If a woman needs to take a day off, it comes out of their sick days.
With your scenario, men are getting a day of leisure and I am curled up in a ball trying to figure out if it is a fart or am I going to shit myself?
So once again, men get the advantage because you do not have a body part that revolts. So while woman are at home in genuine pain, you get to have a day of golf to make it “fair”?
The only fairness would be then if we get one of those machines that simulated cramps and made you wear a suit simulating the 5 lbs of water weight you take on, and then surprise you with a gush of blood in your underwear and have a voice that says, “you bled through your pants and onto the chair”
TrulyStupidNewb t1_j0gwy9s wrote
I'm not saying to not empathize with women who menstruate. I'm saying certain policies that attempt to fix that problem will hurt women further, and it is not my intention to hurt women.
In another side example, women on the pill do not menstruate much, but why should they suffer a disadvantage in getting hired because they are a woman? They shouldn't.
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