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tundar t1_j2ax0yk wrote

Reply to comment by _PM_ME_YOUR_FORESKIN in Brazil will have first Indigenous woman chief for key post by Slavic_Dusa

I’m Brazilian but currently living in the exterior. My personal feelings and from what I gather from my family, it’s that no one is necessarily happy with Lula, because he was corrupt during his presidency though significantly less corrupt than Bolsonaro, but at least during his prior presidency poverty decreased and education increased on a massive scale (through things like the Bolsa Famila program.

I think the general consensus is we’re expecting some degree corruption but we’re very hopeful that life will improve for the poorest, indigenous people and women like it did during his previous presidency.

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jeanlenin t1_j2bcqr2 wrote

What was his corruption? I always hear “lula was corrupt” but never really nailed down a straight answer tbh

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kingpippin t1_j2c0rxs wrote

The major problem is that the corruption schemes were run by his party but they never really managed to prove his own personal involvement with it.

When they did "prove it" (and had him arrested for over a year) it was by a judge who was considered partial by the Supreme Court and had a lot of cases thrown out on partiality and something about how it should have been judged in another place.

No one doubts his party was involved in corruption schemes. They were. So we're their allies and the whole thing.

The main problem lies in optics: What was Lula's role in these? Why was his successor (Dilma Roussef) impeached? He and his party have never really addressed the issues so people have issues with that.

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jeanlenin t1_j2c16qv wrote

That makes sense and lines up with the answers I’ve gotten from my Brazilian friends. I was aware of the scandal within the party I guess I just never connected that to Lula since I don’t live in Brazil and just aren’t that familiar with its politics. Cheers

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tundar t1_j2bff6x wrote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensal%C3%A3o_scandal

Personally, even with all his faults I'm still extremely hopeful and happy that Lula won Bolsonaro lost. It was the right step forward for our democracy, and it's hard to do worse than Jair let's-make-it-a-military-dictatorship-again Bolsonaro.

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mbrandalise t1_j2bmm1w wrote

Bolso and Lula = corruption detected.
We all should keep demanding from them the BEST for our country or let's kick them out next elections!
#PoliticiansAreNotHeroes #leaveYourBubbleBro #WeAreTheHeroes

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