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BigGreenBallOfLuck t1_j3spmu0 wrote

I heard this news 20 years ago saying the same thing.

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nolongerbanned99 t1_j3ua8bc wrote

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Carastarr t1_j3v54ns wrote

Remind me! 20 years

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SuchSalad4 t1_j3v9o70 wrote

May you still be in operation by then. I do imagine your owner wearing a one piece aluminium shiny suit though.

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pzelenovic t1_j3v5lee wrote

Message me as well please.

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alwaysmyfault t1_j3w0u3x wrote

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interstat t1_j3tv808 wrote

Weird. I kept hearing 10 years ago we were past the point of return and it's over

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CheesyBurgs t1_j3tzeq5 wrote

What you heard was green house gasses/ global warming caused by industrial farming, logging & crude oil dependency. The deterioration of Ozone is the result of using CFC from spray cans, Ozone deterioration mostly causes UV poisoning as there is no filter from the sunlight

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nolongerbanned99 t1_j3uaem1 wrote

So is it true. Is it gonna repair itself. And we’re spray cans the main cause. Educate me plz

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CheesyBurgs t1_j3uf6p6 wrote

Yes, Ozone repairs itself through simple gravitational forces and atmospheric air composition’s (mostly oxygen) reaction to Sunlight. We have banned commercial CFC usage almost universally for over two decades now. Scientific documents are available all over the net with simple searches. Left over CFC still contributes to global warming but only a small part.

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Smallmyfunger t1_j3ve8p1 wrote

Pretty sure that's why "freon" being used as a refridgerant was discontinued/switched to R134 etc., and automotive paint switched to water-based.

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Ch0senjuan t1_j3vnbmf wrote

R-22 discontinued as well for stuff like R-410A.

I just wanted to sound smart :P

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nolongerbanned99 t1_j3ufmyl wrote

That’s cool. Some good news for a change on the environmental front.

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pzelenovic t1_j3v5j4v wrote

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nolongerbanned99 t1_j3x99py wrote

Wow. This is great. Let’s me try it. Does this newfangled thin work??

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YellowGreenPanther t1_j3x0ab5 wrote

There is no point of no return, as long as civilisation isn't dead, any long-term improvement is a good improvement.

Though a silly amount of people don't think about the long-term, from politicians, to CEOs, to politic-haters, to people who take sides.

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BackFromTheDeadSoon t1_j3w16un wrote

You're confusing the ozone layer with global warming. Nothing to do with each other.

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ARX7 t1_j3vrfb2 wrote

Need china to stop using cfcs and claiming not to be....

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YellowGreenPanther t1_j3wzvtl wrote

Now they are actually legislating to start the phasing out of HFCs.

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BigGreenBallOfLuck t1_j3x0dew wrote

Yeah yeah yeah. I'll believe it when I see it. We get told to do one thing and big corporations are allowed to do another, all for the glory of the coin. Sorry if I seem cynical but I've heard and been fed nothing but lies from those in power. Nothing will change. No one seems to care as long as their 'bubbles' aren't popped.

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Shackdaddy161 t1_j4a3vy9 wrote

Beat the big problems into the the little people. Rules for thee not for me.

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Goatslasagne t1_j3v1j60 wrote

Awesome! So just as the Australian sun turns my skin to cured leather at 75y/o I can finally ignore the 50+ SPF!!

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crystalcastles13 t1_j3ukpy8 wrote

Well that’s cool, but uh what about the fact that Lake Mead, Lake Powell, and The Great Salt Lake are evaporating.

Also that snow melt in many areas of the west have developed this bizarre pink shit growing on it, rendering it totally not ok to drink or use for agriculture, etc.

The Great Salt Lake has lost more than something like 70% of it’s water, leaving 63% of the lake bed completely exposed.

Scientists are saying it will be gone in less than five years if emergency measures aren’t taken immediately.

Fun fact: also (although there’s been a lot of rain in California lately for a change (source lived in California most of my life)) that west coast folks will be the very first “climate migrants” in the US due to drought, there will literally be a completely untenable water situation within the next 8-10 years…and not just Ca, but much of the American west like Arizona, Utah, Nevada, and more.

I hope they’re wrong, but fear they’re right…

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Wonderful-Ear3309 t1_j3unyxi wrote

in one of my classes we were just talking about the evaporation of the Great Salt Lake and if it completely dries up the soil will most likely let off toxic chemicals that will make surrounding areas uninhabitable

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koalafly t1_j3uqjlb wrote

Is it actually evaporation? I thought it was the runoff from neighboring areas that used to flow into the lake has been diverted and used as a water source for the growing population in the area

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crystalcastles13 t1_j3ut0zy wrote

In the article is said that higher temps had caused evaporation, I’m sure there could be other causes as well but that was the only one named in this particular article.

It’s really sad.

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strangeattractors t1_j3v8j5k wrote

Don’t forget the Rhine and Mississippi River disappearing to the point where ships can no longer travel. Nothing to see here, la la la!!!!

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_Projects t1_j3vx3ip wrote

Also all rainwater on the planet, the entire Earth, has PFOS levels higher than the EPA limit (and the EPA limit is likely too high as is).

Can't drink rainwater safely anywhere on Earth already.

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SpiderMcLurk t1_j3vhubo wrote

Now do CO2

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Traciatim t1_j3vw4ns wrote

Pretty soon it will be at great levels to support even greater crop yields and we will be living in a time of abundance. That is unless these anti-human nutters mess everything up.

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_Projects t1_j3vxdtd wrote

If you think climate change is going to be good for crop yields I have some bad news for you

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chazmosaur t1_j3vye6u wrote

We’re trashing our souls with mono-agriculture and pesticides but I haven’t heard that CO2 is bad for plants?

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PatsFanInHTX t1_j3w07zh wrote

They said climate change not CO2. Disruptions in weather patterns is undoubtedly bad for crop yields. Best condition for optimizing is steady state.

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_Projects t1_j3w2ra6 wrote

CO2 is good for plants so idiots make the argument that increases in CO2 will actually be good for agriculture, it's simpleton thinking.

First it's not enough CO2 to help plants, second it's fucking up the water cycle and 90% of the earth will see drought and/or flooding, for generations, which is very bad for plants.

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Traciatim t1_j3wdpi7 wrote

CO2 stops the earth being a frozen wasteland. If you think removing it is positive you just have a hatred of humanity and life itself.

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_Projects t1_j3wnusn wrote

Ever hear the phrase "the dose makes the poison"?

Nobody said CO2 was bad, it's too much that's bad.

Heat is good, too much heat is bad.

Not that hard to understand

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Traciatim t1_j3wygc7 wrote

Too much isn't bad until you get to about 100 times what it is now. If too little is bad and too much is bad, what is the ideal amount? I'd argue it's somewhere in the 1000-2000ppm level for ideal plant growth and largest land areas being the most productive. Why is it never studied that way, do you think?

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_Projects t1_j3x6kw1 wrote

Animals, including humans, start to feel like shit at 1000-2000ppm. Drowsy, headache, difficulty breathing.

Wait are you a bot?

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FartOfGenius t1_j3x65ga wrote

Convenient of you to view CO2 levels in isolation without any considerations for how the resulting climate change will negatively affect crop yields far more via extreme weather e.g. droughts, flooding, heat waves, storms…

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MurphNastyFlex t1_j3u4ptz wrote

LMAO! I had totally forgotten about this. I guess I thought it was just 90s propaganda

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nIBLIB t1_j3ugpex wrote

You thought that every government in the world working together and putting environment over profit was just propaganda?

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MurphNastyFlex t1_j3uktpk wrote

I was talking about the hole in the ozone layer and I was in third grade so yea. Wasn't privy to all the knowledge of the climate crisis.

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nIBLIB t1_j3ul6hv wrote

So am I. Every government in the world got together to ban HFC’s. You can’t legally produce something with HFC in any country. It was a huge environmental win.

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Curse3242 t1_j3v7wbj wrote

It could like that family guy clip where you say this but then government officials reading this are laughing their asses off because it's exactly the case. You never know these days. When stuff like Epsteins Island can be hidden from the public, anything can be

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nIBLIB t1_j3vkmp9 wrote

When every climate scientist on the planet is in agreement, I choose to believe them. But, sure, there’s a chance they’re all lying and the UN and every government are all in on it in an effort for you to buy a different version of the same brand of hairspray. Because that makes sense…

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BoxytheBandit t1_j3vn0vl wrote

That'll be real handy for the next civilisation that comes along after we finish trashing this place, and the Earth has enough of our shit and either burns us or freezes us to death

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cireland85 t1_j3vqp8i wrote

What if the ozone hole was letting all the heat out, and not in?

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Almostawardguy t1_j3tci7w wrote

Good, I’ve really missed their music, although I think they might be to old to make any music in 40 years time seeing as they will be like 80/90 years old

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Yulvex t1_j3vij8m wrote

Heard this from my father, he's like the only person I know that manages to find positive news

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luminous_beings t1_j3vw6bx wrote

We already closed that goddamned hole once. How the hell did you guys fuck it up again so fast ? - signed all the gen x’ers who gave up their hairspray for the environment in the 80s

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PatsFanInHTX t1_j3w13fz wrote

The ozone "hole" was never closed. It took decades just for the regulatory changes in the 80s and 90s to finally stop the depletion. You are probably thinking of that news that it was now on the mend as meaning it was closed. As far as I know, it's been consistently reported that it would take to the mid century point to close the hole.

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boogup t1_j3vzuij wrote

America: Mississippi Queen starts playing

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BackFromTheDeadSoon t1_j3w1j1h wrote

Amazing what happens when you believe scientists over profiteers and their paid-for politicians.

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heredude t1_j3w2nhs wrote

Don’t let people know that- it’ll start worsening.

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Stambro1 t1_j3w3d53 wrote

Just in time for all of the glaciers to melt and cities to be drowned!!!

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titus1531 t1_j3w68gp wrote

Is this going to have an impact on global warming?

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BaconDragon69 t1_j3waeq8 wrote

Great, now all the carbon emissions can slow cook our biosohere to perfection while the rich still refuse to put the fate of the world above their profits

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OldGrayMare59 t1_j3wrylr wrote

I remember the scientist said we should use roll on or solid stick deodorant so we quit depleting the ozone layer in the early ‘70’s. Well my sacrifice must have worked

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BroskyJones t1_j3wyled wrote

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ifoundit1 t1_j3wzpgw wrote

"we're gonna damage it less illegitimately consistently."

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Optimal-Permission-8 t1_j3x4eyx wrote

didn't we just discover a massive hole in the ozone the stretches around the equator?

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gcbeehler5 t1_j3w13ys wrote

Just enough time to allow the hole to help accelerate land glacier ice melt to completion and exacerbate climate change!

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purple-lemons t1_j3web9t wrote

Just in time for the end of the world

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D_Jayestar t1_j3wpw1c wrote

How can that be true.

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asspickle1 t1_j3x4g69 wrote

ozone layer got destroyed by cfc’s from aerosol products which have mostly been phased out. Co2 is still a major issue though

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Agitated-Garbage-65 t1_j3wq2mg wrote

Lovely. Meanwhile human civilization won’t make it that far at this rate

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Nenoshka t1_j3wwdsq wrote

This is old news. SMH

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Voodoo_People78 t1_j3x384l wrote

Just in time for the demise of mankind! Great news!

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Triobian t1_j3vwl6s wrote

USA: "And I took that personally"

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E5VL t1_j3v62rg wrote

And by that time humanity will be extinct.

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Carastarr t1_j3v51j6 wrote

I thought this already happened in the 80’s when we stopped getting our McDonald’s burgers in styrofoam boxes?

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vrenak t1_j3v7510 wrote

That stopped the decay and began the healing process, takes a long time to heal.

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Dudelison t1_j3vdszh wrote

They started to introduce a limit of CSF usage in the 1980s, a ban in the 90s that would be fulfilled by 2000 in industrialized countries and the ban to be fulfilled by 2010 in developing countries.

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AWL_cow t1_j3ux49m wrote

How could this be even remotely believable? There is no evidence to support this.

Edit: What significant contributing factor(s) to the decline of the ozone layer has been stopped or dramatically slowed?

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LasagneAlForno t1_j3uykog wrote

What? It's possible to measure the ozon layer and create forecasts based on that measure.

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Skullerprop t1_j3vpc6w wrote

Something tells me your opinions don’t need evidence. Just preconceptions and wrong understanding of a rumour would suffice for you.

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AWL_cow t1_j3wzfck wrote

Or, I don't take every headline that I see at face-value first glance.

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Skullerprop t1_j3x12fz wrote

Behind the headline there is an explanation. And clearly you did not even understand what the title is referring to.

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AWL_cow t1_j3xlbvl wrote

If the ozone is on track to recover in the next 40 years then I will be glad to be wrong.

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Skullerprop t1_j407gw9 wrote

I bet you are also not convinced by the rising temperature in the oceans, or the fact that the ice is melting.

No matter what you think about the ozone layer or how much you are willing to wait to confirm it, science is science and it will remain so without you believing it. Just like math. Or simple logic.

BTW, the ozone layer is one of the least complicated notions about our planet’s atmosphere.

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AWL_cow t1_j41plz7 wrote

If I believe the ozone isn't getting better, then wouldn't I believe that the earth is heating up and subsequently the ice is melting? That makes more sense imo.

Its okay, for some reason people on reddit get a hard on for projecting their worst assumptions onto others the moment they sniff a different opinion. I'm aware and have accepted it.

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jerryham1062 t1_j3x1fgc wrote

The banning of CFCs is what is reversing the decline of the ozone layer

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PrometheusOnLoud t1_j3v5mf5 wrote

What happened? Did they finally realize if the kept crying wolf, no one would believe them when they need them to?

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Belawzi t1_j3sk90r wrote

How fickle we are to think we have control or understanding in how the ozone is damaged or repaired.

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Almostawardguy t1_j3tl9as wrote

Just because you don’t have an understanding of the ozone layer, doesn’t mean that other people don’t. This is a very very week argument that you can apply to anything “how fickle we are to think we can truly understand trigonometry”. If you are interested I strongly suggest you start looking up/studying the subject

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Saltiest_Seahorse t1_j3twlu1 wrote

Tell us you don't understand science without telling me you don't understand science.

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khamelean t1_j3u2orl wrote

I don’t think that word means what you think it means…

Fickle - changing frequently, especially as regards one's loyalties or affections.

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koalafly t1_j3uqsuj wrote

How fickle we are to think we have an understanding of the English language

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Skullerprop t1_j3vpirn wrote

The same way we understand how gravity works and why the planets rotate around the Sun and the moons around the planets. Science.

And then you have stupid people who are unable to understand any bit of science and then decide for themselves: “no, this is not possible. It can’t be”. Sweet ignorance!

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Berylan t1_j3sku0g wrote

Problems that never existed for 200

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Almostawardguy t1_j3tlybz wrote

Yes 200 years ago we were not damaging the ozone layer. You’re starting to get it. If you miss how life was 200 years ago you can sign out of Reddit, put down your smart phone and go wash your clothes by the river

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APandChill t1_j3uigfc wrote

The Jeopardy reference completely flew over your head didn’t it? 😂🤣😂

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nIBLIB t1_j3ugw11 wrote

200 years ago we didn’t have the problem of people dying in car accidents. You should probably still wear a seatbelt, though.

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