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Dankestgoldenfries t1_j3wm7gr wrote

I’m so primed for bad news that I assumed an algal bloom.

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MrHazard1 t1_j3ykhfk wrote

I was actually waiting for australian forest fire news, because it's summer there.

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Lurker12386354676 t1_j3yw6vl wrote

Probably not for another year or two, at least for a big one. They're pretty well on a half decade schedule.

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Alas_Babylonz t1_j3x6v9w wrote

I was in Woomera, Australia when the horrific drought of 1982/83 ended. After the rains finally came that Spring (October) the smell was striking and incredible! Somewhat stinky but vibrant. Rot and new growth at the same time.

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theflyingkiwi00 t1_j3yi540 wrote

I enjoy that smell, it's like the smell of life.

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hack_the_interbutts t1_j402mio wrote

And death... Can you really have one without the other?

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warrant2k t1_j3wn8ei wrote

Californiain here. Expect lush greenery, then it'll dry out with no more rain, then wildfires that go unchecked.

If you have mountains there are bonus mudslides.

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razor_eddie t1_j3xge64 wrote

>then wildfires

Largest ever Californian wildfire was just over a million acres. In 2020. That year, the wildfires burned just over 4 million acres. Which was a record.

https://www.fire.ca.gov/media/4jandlhh/top20_acres.pdf

In Aus, in 2020, bushfires burned about 10 times as much acreage (46 million). A bad year, but not the worst.

In the last 20 years, the 99 million acre one in the Northern Territory.

THe 1974-5 season took out 290 million acres. (The state of California is 104 million acres in size).

Trust me, Australian bushfires make californian ones look tiny.

The bad season in 2020, the Southern Alps in New Zealand got a fair dusting of ash from the Australian bushfires. That;s like getting the ash from a California fire in Arkansas.

Australian trees (eucalypts) have evolved to survive bushfires, there are that many of them. Australia does bushfires worse than anyone else.

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sanemartigan t1_j3y3xk5 wrote

It was more about saying they're from cali.

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razor_eddie t1_j3y4pcm wrote

Like vegans or people with hobby farms?

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fleebleganger t1_j403g0y wrote

Or people with palatine. Damnit, autocorrect. Those fancy bikes that “had a scandal” when they came out because of something in the ad. Whenever someone owns one it’s not an exercise bike it’s a “peligrini”.

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Rosie2jz t1_j3zac2f wrote

Remember when we convinced California to import Eucalyptus trees and then they ran wild and took over and now Cali's bushfires are 10x worse then they ever were? California wildfires are pretty similar to ours and both our fire fighters share training, personal and equipment during bad seasons.

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razor_eddie t1_j3zfelb wrote

Yeah, they're a trap, eucalypts. Excellent firewood, mind you.

And Aus and Canada and Cali (and NZ) sharing firefighters every year is a heartwarming thing.

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Hfino t1_j3zvuny wrote

Same thing happened in Portugal. The country with the most eucalyptus per sqm in the world.

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Ethicaldreamer t1_j3ypens wrote

Are you saying we should nuke Australia since their forest fires cause so many emissions? Noted

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razor_eddie t1_j3yrxy2 wrote

You want radioactive drop bears?

Because that's how you get radioactive drop bears.

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Ethicaldreamer t1_j3yvr6d wrote

Had to search what a drop bear is. Someone needs to fix the wiki page for it to better explain that they are real, and will eat your face.

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PerriX2390 t1_j3yxfxj wrote

> Someone needs to fix the wiki page for it to better explain that they are real, and will eat your face.

Of course they're real. Thankfully just a bit of vegemite behind your ear and they'll leave you alone when bushwalking.

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-stuey- t1_j40016u wrote

Don’t tell him about the hoop snakes

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AR96-BDB t1_j40tkq1 wrote

Don't quote me, but I remember reading somewhere that so much vegetation was burnt in Australia's December 2019-january 2020 bushfire that the ash plumes cooled the planet 0.25-0.5 Celsius, owing to it blocking the sun partially.

Again, I'm not sure if it was real or just nonsense.

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razor_eddie t1_j428oco wrote

Wouldn't surprise me. If a volcanic eruption can do it (Tambora in indonesia erupted in 1815, which lead to the "year without summer" because of particulates in the atmosphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer

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Acceptable_Figure624 t1_j3wpahv wrote

You must be a hoot at parties.

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throwawayforyouzzz t1_j3wpr8z wrote

The owls will burn too, in a wildfire caused by a gender revealing party. It shall come to pass.

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TheGardenNymph t1_j3xqe2m wrote

This is part of the desert cycle in many parts of Australia, the landscape and ecosystem is used to heavy rains up north flowing down for hundreds of kilometres along existing river beds, many towns expect these yearly flood cycles that bring large scale animal migration, it's been happening for hundreds of years. Australia is not California.

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Fullonski t1_j3xy0ml wrote

Australian here, thanks for telling us how climate cycles work. We’re pretty inexperienced with the whole floods and subsequent wildfires thing here, so any advice is appreciated. 🙄

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alldressed_chip t1_j3y34xu wrote

lmao californian here, and I think original commenter is very much in “buckle up” mode rn - it’s been a little wet here recently 🤪 can’t wait to see what that means!! hottest ticket in town

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FarfarsFav t1_j3wvz25 wrote

But what’s traffic like on the 105?

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warrant2k t1_j3wz295 wrote

As expected, a parking lot.

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chipsinsideajar t1_j3x36sa wrote

The 405 too

And the 110

And the 15

And the 210

And some random backroad in Industry cause a truck fell over again

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vacuum_everyday t1_j3xayve wrote

Serious question: why do Californians add “the” in front of everything, but especially freeways?Up north we just call it I-15. As in “I-15 is jammed with hours long delays.” Other freeways are just their number.

But “THE 15” setup is a dead giveaway they’re from California.

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Blargcar t1_j3xjvbx wrote

Because Los Angeles and southern California had freeways before a lot of the country. Instead of numbers at first they had names like: The San Diego freeway, the Pasadena freeway, the long beach freeway. The San Diego freeway became the 405, Pasadena became 110 and long beach became 710, along with Ventura freeway (101).

So people were used to saying THE then the name. Then when they became numbers they were used to saying THE then the number. It makes sense when you think of it and know the history.

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handyandy727 t1_j3xbs8f wrote

My wife is from California and still can't explain that. Maybe it's because state highways are so big too? Like Highway 90 is basically an interstate in size. I dunno.

ETA: We live in KY, and we just say "65" or "71". We omit the "I-" but don't use THE unless it's a parkway or expressway.

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God_Damnit_Nappa t1_j3ysvuj wrote

If you're going somewhere you'd say something like "I'm on the freeway." I assume it's a similar reason. Like "I'm on the 405." It sounds weird to leave out "the." I don't personally buy the "well the freeways were named before they had numbers" explanation but I suppose that's a better reason that "just because."

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Lurker12386354676 t1_j3ywt7n wrote

Fuck thank god we've got the seppos to warn us about bushfires, never would have thought about it hey.

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alabamdiego t1_j3zzyhf wrote

Lmfao did you just firesplain wildfires to fucking Australia?? I think they know all about it.

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A_Brown_Crayon t1_j3wxfpc wrote

Who asked

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RollUpTheRimJob t1_j3xbbyl wrote

Major shifts in ecosystems are not uplifting

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TheGardenNymph t1_j3xqkja wrote

Actually this desert cycle has been happening for hundreds of years, it's fairly unique to Australia. I commented more information above.

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SirActionSack t1_j3yeumw wrote

Plenty of plants in Australia require or benefit from fire.

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-LVS t1_j3y7zxx wrote

Normally I’d agree, but we’re on /r/upliftingnews. I come here to be uplifted

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TheFlashFrame t1_j3z4omn wrote

As a Californian did you think it was weird to see a bunch of Aborigines throwing up Westside signs?

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yodippiddy t1_j3wytl3 wrote

Looks like bad news for the new max max movie production.

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N-ShadowFrog t1_j3xk68m wrote

Might actually be kinda cool. Like maybe not for mad max but it would be a great setting for a post apocalyptic world where the earth is actively healing and the people fight over whether it’s time to stop and settle down or continue their wandering ways.

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CaravelClerihew t1_j3xpmth wrote

A similar event was actually why Fury Road moved production to Africa. It was meant to be shot in Australia.

That being said, I'm pretty sure the new movie is done filming.

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natalieloben t1_j3zjlqs wrote

Fury Road was partly shot in Aus too. They used props from and locations around the museum in Broken Hill.

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-stuey- t1_j3zzkiq wrote

They also shot in Queensland near my house

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is0ph OP t1_j3xvb3x wrote

No problem! Rebranded as Waterworld II.

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argothedog t1_j3xhqqz wrote

They already shifted the last one to Namibia for similar reasons

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natalieloben t1_j3zjfdo wrote

It'll be fine. My friends run the Mad Max 2 museum where it was filmed just outside Broken Hill and their habitat remains pretty consistent.

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ashera_spectre t1_j3xgfiv wrote

"Local fauna is florishing."

The picture shows a real pissed off bearded dragon, haha.

I am sure he's happy about all the blossoming life and food from the rain, though.

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HiveMynd148 t1_j40rrng wrote

the only way we can tell it's Australia is the fact that the Bearded dragon IS Pissed af

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blueberriessmoothie t1_j40nw2i wrote

I’m not sure if more pissed or mercilessly and mockingly judging the photographer: “you think you’re better than me?”

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JustLikeJD t1_j3y1nt6 wrote

As an Australian I always take this news with a grain of salt. This is years in the making and often catastrophic fooling and weather events make way for this.

Likewise we are teetering in the verge of moving back into La Nino and if that happens then all this greenery will dry up very quickly and fuel the next round of bushfires.

I live rural and the amount of unkept and I trimmed greenery that’s grown over the last 12 months is very concerning. In my area there hasn’t been a lot of burn offs either.

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Ididitfordalolz t1_j3z3e9t wrote

Fellow Aussie, also live rural. We’ve had bushfires reach one ridge over from our house, have a water pump and tank just for fires and the dam at the dairy farm opposite us is used by the water choppers. Even with all that, it’s gonna be another sketchy one folks

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JustLikeJD t1_j3zg20x wrote

I know that worry. We’ve just moved about 30 mins out of the closest rural town and our property where we are at has a seperate tank to pump into from the river next to us to help fight fires with a seperate petrol pump so it’s isolated from our homes power system. Still makes us uneasy.

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Original_End2444 t1_j40hgq8 wrote

Did it cross your mind to move somewhere safer rather than more dangerous?

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JustLikeJD t1_j40htaj wrote

It’s not just that easy. Money is a major issue for most to just up and leave.

We’re in a rental shortage in Australia. A pretty dire one actually. We got our current property on the back of a recommendation to the landlord from some family friends. There’re were only two other rentals going at that time in our closest town (9,000 residents).

I work a very specific job (caseworker for young offenders) and I’m able to have security here because there is a high demand for workers like myself in rural areas.

Last time we had a bushfire season even major cities were having runaway fires get fairly close to suburbia.

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Ididitfordalolz t1_j41yqzf wrote

Any idea what this safer mumbo jumbo is about?

Fr tho, what is “safer” for Aus. Fires, floods, cyclones, etc. nowhere is safe. Combine that with the rental shortage and boom!? options evaporate

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Silent_Ensemble t1_j42z2q2 wrote

Of course it did, it obviously wasn’t that simple. No one is purposefully moving somewhere more dangerous when they have better options

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ReasonablyBadass t1_j3wia9u wrote

How long will it last? Will some of the water fill aquifers?

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is0ph OP t1_j3wqeuu wrote

The frogs will fill back their water bubble where they will remain for years until the next rain or flood.

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account_not_valid t1_j4119kf wrote

Damn Tiddalik! Drinking all the water and not leaving any for the other animals.

Bring in the dancing snake!

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Livefox96 t1_j3ws76d wrote

Some of it will. The rest of it will quickly be used by farmers to water fields because they're allowed to use way too much water

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AcerRubrum t1_j3xuryz wrote

There's no farms near Alice Springs. It's surrounded by desert for hundreds of kilometers on all sides.

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diagnosedwolf t1_j3yt3l0 wrote

Of course there are. There’s Yambah Station, and a bunch of other farms around the town. Cattle and stuff, I think. Definitely camels.

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uruguay2609 t1_j3y8ir7 wrote

Meanwhile, close to my country, and the Amazon forest, we are experiencing one of the worst drought in history

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/108gy4c

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Pelsi t1_j3z0eqn wrote

We are swinging into a neutral ENSO period right now though, which should be good-ish news for both of us (Australia and S. America) for a while… until El Niño hits of course.

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deadheadlinenmustfly t1_j3yx5m8 wrote

Nice. It reminds me of when my wife and I flew into Alice Springs in March of 2000. "The Wet" had been unusually so in the outback and there were lots of green plants around. On the descent, the pilot wecomed us all to "Australia's _green_ center."

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Ghostpumpkin t1_j3zmb2y wrote

As someone who lives in Western Australia, I'm glad at least Alice did alright with the extra rain. The Fitzroy river flooding is pretty devastating from the same ex-tropical cyclone. Its 50km wide in areas apparently and some towns will be completely inaccessible by road for many months.

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zeno82 t1_j3zmh0a wrote

Nobody else amused by the name "Todd River"?

Not sure why, just sounds like some colonist was having a go at a friend.

"Hey, Todd, finally found a place as wet as your bed sheets, you nerd. Naming it Todd River after ya".

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parsifal t1_j3xplvl wrote

Wow, Google says it would take me 2 days and one hour to get to the Red Centre.

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Footbeard t1_j3y94tb wrote

This is beautiful but there isn't water to sustain this. Wide corridors need to be cleared to prevent a repeat of the bushfires we experienced fewer than 5 years ago

El Nino is likely gonna hit us halfway through the year and we need to be prepared so more than half our country doesn't catch fire again.

The cycle of growth & decay is remarkable & it's very important for us to learn from the land

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sarcasiman t1_j3yuoly wrote

"Over the past week, parts of the central-west of the Northern Territory have received between 200 and 300 millimetres of rain, while Alice Springs Airport received 84mm in the 24 hours to 9am Monday."

Converted: 7.87" , 11.81" and 3.3" (in order of appearance.)

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InadmissibleHug t1_j3zw23z wrote

When I went to visit Uluṟu in 2001, it wasn’t long after a wet event.

The roads were delightfully edged by desert flowers, it was so pretty!

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MtnMaiden t1_j3zyvpx wrote

Billabong. A pool/pond made from flooding.

Never swim in one due to crocodiles.

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HanMaBoogie t1_j3xaw4t wrote

Now I know where to sail my yellow submarine.

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nzdennis t1_j3yf9lx wrote

Crocs swimming up the road

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Ididitfordalolz t1_j3z4azj wrote

Sigh not again. Hey Dav-o grab the big stick again! Gotta teach these chunky pricks not to use my lawn as a sunning spot!

Fr though. Have had crocs swimming on my previous property during floods. Also big fuck off pythons🤷🏼‍♀️

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nzdennis t1_j3zzdsw wrote

Oh yeah of course the bloody snakes come out as well!

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MarauderGaming t1_j40r9e1 wrote

As a colour blind person on the red green side of things. I see no difference

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is0ph OP t1_j41etbh wrote

This ecosystem should make efforts on the accessibility front. It’s not passing WCAG at the moment.

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BrutusGregori t1_j3xkpaa wrote

My uncles place out in Joshua tree is going crazy will all the flowers coming in.

His wash behind his house is like a river.

This is the high desert of California. All this water around the world is causing so many problems but it sure is awe inducing.

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CarlsbergCuddles t1_j3yn7mv wrote

This has the Nats and Cotton farmers licking their lips....

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MarcusP2 t1_j3zf83l wrote

I just saw an article about the NT being the new frontier for cotton farming. Lots of land being illegally cleared already. Smh

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Jlx_27 t1_j3yxunx wrote

Just like ancient times! Ahh the good old days eh?

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brad_987 t1_j3zp212 wrote

Now the crocs can go anywhere

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mvyrmnd t1_j3ztqin wrote

I'd love to see Trephina Gorge full of water like this.

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berger034 t1_j404tef wrote

This is going to be California soon. Rainfall is like 300% of what we get in the year.

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Amithrius t1_j3xan4s wrote

So they're saying it's invigorating?

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StarxStone t1_j3y4ol2 wrote

Yeah I've been seeing Australia is doing great weatherwise this year

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SirWhatsalot t1_j3ww0t3 wrote

A Major shift like this is not good news. To me it's like "good news everyone! It's now not as cold in the winter!" Aka the planet is just beginning to boil but hasn't yet.

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CaptainMagnets t1_j3wzw5w wrote

Isn't it summer there though?

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Deadpotatoz t1_j3x11qv wrote

It's currently summer in the southern hemisphere yeah.

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SirWhatsalot t1_j3xb76x wrote

The warmer winter I ment in general regardless of where you are, but yes, it is summer there, but if all of the sudden people were happy death valley in the US was blooming I would not be thrilled , in fact I would be terrified of what this means and for what's about to start happening and becoming the "new normal".

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razor_eddie t1_j3xhh35 wrote

You know that the frogs who are adapted to these sort of events will be welcoming the rain, to fill up their water bubbles for the next dry season?

The last hundred years in Australia have been unusually dry. This greening is both welcome and expected, and not a "major shift" of any sort.

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is0ph OP t1_j3xvt68 wrote

If there are frogs waiting for water in the sand, there was flooding before… Australian climate has huge variations even without climate change, that’s why the country is also at high risk from its effects.

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StoneTwin t1_j3w6yq9 wrote

So a part of the country that isn't massively exploited for industrial resources is able to sometime look pretty when people ignore it but it gets a bit of incidental water?

This reeks of trying to make Australia sound good environmentally when they have a lot of hard work to actually fix their situation.

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midmon t1_j3w8wt7 wrote

There's no agenda either way dude. It's just newsworthy because Central Australia isn't usually flooded. It's not meant to be this way, it's literally a desert and has been for thousands of years. If anything it's indicative of the climate crisis, not the other way around.

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Zero_Griever t1_j3wcfsb wrote

Watch how you're swinging that logic stick around, you might smack somebody.

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Klaus0225 t1_j3wqphc wrote

This comment reeks of reading way too much into things.

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StoneTwin t1_j3x0icx wrote

There's been quite a few "uplifting" Australia environment articles in the last couple weeks.

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tywhy87 t1_j3x9lex wrote

We wouldn’t want that, now would we?

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