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Popular-Invite t1_j4351mo wrote

Went from extreme drought to severe drought lol

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DrunkAsASoberSkunk t1_j4776xd wrote

Read a headline from Colorado the other day saying “parts of Colorado no longer in extreme drought”

Article goes on to say now we’re just abnormally dry. Great stuff

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jezra t1_j43688k wrote

from the article: "However, the extreme influx of moisture was contained to west of the Sierra Nevada mountain range, which does little to alleviate the dwindling water levels at Lake Mead and Lake Powell"

Yes, the changing of the drought status in California does not change the drought status of reservoirs that are not in California.

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Sea-Spray5150 t1_j448iub wrote

Colorado river is who really needs it.

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Hawk---- t1_j45t4ae wrote

Or maybe stop massively overdrawing from the river instead?

People like to go on about how the river needs rain as though the problem is just a lack of rain, all while ignoring the fact the US has a massive problem with the way it supplies water and where it draws it from.

Yes, the lack of rain is an issue. But it's not the cause. The cause is the overdrawing of water from strained sources that can't sustain the demand, even if the drought was broken.

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jbouser_99 t1_j4706xo wrote

So what's the alternative?

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brett1081 t1_j472ye4 wrote

Live in different states. Quite frankly Phoenix shouldn’t exist in its current form.

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rrfe t1_j483wnh wrote

Whenever there’s a water crisis anywhere, and the residential usage is published, it’s usually quite small relative to agriculture. What percentage of its overall water supply does Phoenix use?

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Kagahami t1_j48kure wrote

This. Agricultural and industrial use is monumental compared to residential.

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Axiled t1_j473665 wrote

Looks like it would need more examination into what causes the overdrawing...

For example: grass yards require a lot of water... is that really necessary? How much can be saved here?
Agriculture generally gets a lot of water allotment. Are there methods of farming that reduce water needs? How can that be encouraged? Are there different crops that use less that can be farmed instead?

There are ways to address overdrawing, some are cultural and some need a lot more context of the area that is overdrawing.

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[deleted] t1_j49v0sa wrote

The issue for farming near the Colorado river is if a farmer doesn't use all of their water allotment they lose it. A lot of farmers in AZ grow water intensive crops because of this. The issue isn't the farming, we already know how to grow low water crops, it's the laws and bureaucracy around it that prevents any sort of change.

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BadMedAdvice t1_j453l1q wrote

So, Utah & Colorado. Basically, everything upstream of Lake Powell. Lake Mead seems to get the most attention. But if Powell goes dry, Mead is on a timer. If Mead goes dry... Well, life will be different.

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artraeu82 t1_j45yqtz wrote

Well this is what happens when you build reservoirs and cities in deserts .

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PM_ur_Rump t1_j4353hc wrote

It's nice for plants this season, but doesn't magically replenish the aquifers and such that took many, many years to fill.

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Kushthulu_the_Dank t1_j43q7mv wrote

Drought status still persists because water and snowpack reserves remain low. The extreme drought impacts have been temporarily alleviated but make no mistake, the drought never left.

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The_Noble_Oak t1_j43zy7v wrote

The problem is it's too much at once, the ground is so saturated that the rest is just running off instead of sinking into the ground where we need it. But hey climate change gonna climate change.

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who519 t1_j44cxpq wrote

Yep, I live in the mountains, we got 10 feet of snow last December and they said the drought was over, then we got nothing for 4 months.

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Accountforstuffineed t1_j44gxpf wrote

This isn't climate change, this is building massive cities in deserts

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The_Noble_Oak t1_j44ib1k wrote

California isn't a desert. The intensity of these storms has everything to do with climate change.

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Accountforstuffineed t1_j44ifwy wrote

It is

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SweetPeaRiaing t1_j44mqdz wrote

Ca is not a desert, only parts of ca are deserts. There are mountains, coastal, and Mediterranean climates as wel

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The_Noble_Oak t1_j46pxr6 wrote

No, no it is not. I live here and it is decidedly not a desert. We have areas that are but the state itself is not.

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_Kramerica_ t1_j46bnq9 wrote

Talk to LV and AZ. CA ain’t it bud.

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Accountforstuffineed t1_j46c966 wrote

Makes no sense

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_Kramerica_ t1_j46d6sx wrote

How doesn’t it make sense? Arizona and LV are literal deserts. California has areas that are desert but many places that aren’t. What’re you struggling with?

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Accountforstuffineed t1_j46fdui wrote

And which parts of California are facing the most problems with drought? I never once said California is only desert lol

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No-tomato-1976 t1_j44s3m4 wrote

All Droughts end in a flood

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kynthrus t1_j45lkbt wrote

And you can have floods and still be in a drought. Too much water at the wrong place does nothing to fill lakes and resevoirs.

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Nezevonti t1_j461grg wrote

That's why most flood prevention and permaculture focus on holding as much of the water as you can. Be it in ponds, dugouts or in floodplains or specialty built reservoirs.

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Andrewop t1_j44zr5f wrote

Why can’t we make more reservoirs or water infrastructure to retain more of the water without relying on aquifers?

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Boris-Balto t1_j456e3d wrote

Why can't people/corporations sustainably use the natural resources available to them?

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Andrewop t1_j458cpt wrote

I could be wrong but I’m beginning to suspect cause the oil

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Dashing_McHandsome t1_j4535i9 wrote

I'm no civil engineer, (I do watch one on YouTube sometimes), but I'm just going to throw out money as a guess.

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GlitteringEarth_ t1_j4482bw wrote

These poor homeowners. If it’s not fires, it’s floods. Dang!

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Rosemonk t1_j455059 wrote

Also PGE will probably continue to raise the cost of water due to some of their infrastructure failures that we will all have to pay to fix. Their monopoly is insane.

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boomclapclap t1_j45vm7p wrote

First time I’ve realized that Pacifc Gas and Electric supplies… your water?

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CephalopodOverlord t1_j473jkp wrote

Californian here. pG&E is so bad, and it gets so much worse in rural areas. Our infrastructure just needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, it’s not working. With climate change and forest mismanagement as well, we can’t just continue on thinking that this is normal. Between fires and floods, I don’t see how it’s sustainable to just think that rolling blackouts and outages that last weeks to months is safe or healthy.

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BM09 t1_j42xgmr wrote

I figured that would happen.

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Toffeechu t1_j45xx7l wrote

All that means is fire season 2023 will be ROUGH this next round with vegetation getting a spring growth spurt courtesy of the storms and then drying out in the persisting Severe Drought conditions. So much new tinder to catch sparks..

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IMOaTravesty t1_j47166s wrote

Few understand this. If you live in SoCal you'll understand this. Unless we get a solid flow over the next few months, Santa Ana winds will wreck havoc after the fire season will be rough.

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CephalopodOverlord t1_j473wzv wrote

Not to mention or relative lack of forest management in rural areas. I’m originally from the mountains in central cali, and my father is a wildland captain. There’s so little being done to actually address the issues that will make our fire seasons so bad, mostly due to bureaucracy and outside lobbying.

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Th3Dinkster t1_j433vd5 wrote

Yay they drought is solved guys! California is under water now!

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Stile2112 t1_j44zqtf wrote

No worries... California's have a short memory and will be back to wasting water in no time.

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CoysNizl3 t1_j46957o wrote

Yes, the drought is from the common man “wasting water”. Imagine being this fucking stupid.

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CephalopodOverlord t1_j4746h2 wrote

Californian politics, like most, is about pointing fingers instead of solving problems. I’m sick of it.

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IzzytheMelody t1_j45g5x3 wrote

And 5 months later "WILDFIRES, DROUGHTS OH GOD ITS ALL ON FIRE AGAIN AAAAAAA", like clockwork.

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Pomegranate_36 t1_j4414op wrote

I wonder if crops could adapt to half a year of rain and half a year of drought.. if that's what climate change will bring us.

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Parhelion79 t1_j44n0ar wrote

What do they grow in India? That sounds like their monsoons.

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ArtsyTraveller t1_j44tync wrote

That’s what we live with in Oregon. A big douche in the winter and drought all summer long.

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BadMedAdvice t1_j454160 wrote

>A big douche in the winter

Dude. If you didn't want me to come for Christmas, you should have said so on one of the dozen opportunities I gave for you to back out.

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gofundyourself007 t1_j45c7nj wrote

The water will likely mostly flow back into the ocean since dry soil absorbs less water for some reason.

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erleichda70- t1_j471pe5 wrote

Not how drought works. Rain events don't negate years of damage, often the flooding because of that damage is worse.

Its not a scoreboard, it is ecosystems.

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baseballdnd t1_j47q2n4 wrote

And fixed... haha. Now it's just total drought and not extreme anymore.

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Van_Inhale t1_j44kfvs wrote

only costed 20 peoples lives

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Parhelion79 t1_j44n5hv wrote

“Some of you may die… but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.”

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416Mike t1_j45lqdh wrote

This is uplifting news? Sounds more like ironic and troubling news.

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smuggled_bread t1_j467yzs wrote

The Lord protecting California.

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Dartagnan1083 t1_j47cucc wrote

🐘Why would the Lord protect California?! News Flash!!! He wouldn't!!! This was clearly the work of Soros funded reptile immigrants and Jews seeking to steal water from Texas and the Mississippi.

/s...maybe misplaced, drought is a global crisis.

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rt_taxing t1_j46z80n wrote

Stop Almond Farming in California and increase reservoir capacity.

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TheNextBattalion t1_j47czw9 wrote

Who needs rivers in the ground when you can have them in the sky

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DamonFields t1_j4dcamh wrote

The depleted aquifers will take several years of this to recharge.

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Pomegranate_36 t1_j441le7 wrote

A few more weeks of rain and people will wish back the drought..

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Zieltyp t1_j461sq5 wrote

Unreadable title

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