Submitted by bunkerbash t3_10sohzf in Washington
[deleted] t1_j77gnid wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in ‘Hiking Paradise’-Washington State. 9x6” gouache, finished today! by bunkerbash
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trustfundkidpdx t1_j78y8a1 wrote
I agree with BunkerBash. Glad they deleted their comment. Trash.
volpiousraccoon t1_j79t138 wrote
Hi friend, when I was younger I used to take critique personally as well. But as you get older, you will learn that they did not mean to "Attack" you in any way, constructive feedback is just that, critique. You can choose to let it eat you alive or choose to ignore it.
If you have rejection sensitivity please consider seeking help from a mental health professional if you have not already. Getting another person's perspective in my work was actually helpful for me as I continue to advance my career and grow as an artist. I apologize if I have inadvertently hurt your feelings but you must learn to manage critique and unwelcome comments. Wish you all the best and have a nice day!
dream996 t1_j7a5tlw wrote
You should only really offer "constructive feedback" when the artist deliberately asks for it. You might think you are doing them a favor, but they don't need it and they don't want to hear it. Art is very subjective after-all, your feedback might not even be relevant to the artist's style.
You should only really offer "constructive feedback" when the artist deliberately asks for it. You might think you are doing them a favor, but they don't need it and they don't want to hear it. Art is very subjective after all, your feedback might not even be relevant to the artist's style.
Affectionate-Job-737 t1_j7azltb wrote
You can’t control other people and how they behave, you can only control your own feelings and how you react…
Eliciden t1_j7b98fy wrote
You can still call them out for being callous, though.
sailorloona t1_j7b6xsb wrote
hi “friend” it’s only constructive criticism if op asked for it. if you think it’s normal for a stranger to give their unwanted opinion on a piece op never claimed was perfect nor ever asked for opinions on, you need to get your head out of your ass. i apologize if i have inadvertently hurt your feelings but you must learn to manage critique and unwelcome comments.
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devzil t1_j7bg1qq wrote
“Hi friend”… don’t call her your friend and then immediately tell her to get mental professional help. Don’t critique someones work if they aren’t asking for it, period. And don’t normalize it. People post their art to share it with the world NOT to receive any type of criticism (unless it is blatantly asked for). You wouldn’t tell someone how to do their job, same applies for this.
Affectionate-Job-737 t1_j7aze9q wrote
You need to develop a thicker skin if this is your job. You can’t expect to post online and only get positive responses - this the 1% of negative feedback you received and you react like this?
It’s not very professional, is it?
sailorloona t1_j7bbqsv wrote
you lot need to understand that artists can still feel wounded and hurt by critiques from people even if they mean well and that they do not have to remain professional about every piece they make at all times. it’s still a passion and a hobby. literally all anyone is saying is to stop giving unwanted advice because it’s not gonna help anyone.
Affectionate-Job-737 t1_j7bepf8 wrote
As I wrote in another thread:
You can’t control other people and how they behave, you can only control your own feelings and how you react…
sailorloona t1_j7bfvve wrote
yes we’ve all seen your reply. the thing is, when enough people behave poorly and it adds up over time while we bottle that sadness and anger we feel, we’re bound to explode or let ourselves be emotional at some point. we reserve the right to call others out for being assholes. why should we always stay calm if we’re not the ones in the wrong???
EyedMoon t1_j7awevk wrote
Sometimes comments that sound harsh can be insightful, despite lacking tact, I'd say. But this time it was just random buzzwords they must have heard of 2 minutes before posting, since nothing they pointed out was actually true.
Also, the painting's great, even if there were some mistakes in it it wouldn't mean it's bad, so keep on doing what you like and enjoy
oceanspire t1_j7937su wrote
what is the purpose of posting art if you can’t take constructive criticism? it’s how a lot of artists improve. it wasn’t even really a rude comment. your art is lovely, but this seems unnecessary.
MitoChomp t1_j7954yq wrote
The purpose of posting art is to SHOW your art, that's it. If they don't ask for criticism, you DON'T give criticism, either you like it or not. There's plenty of way to improve, giving unsolicited advice will not help as much as you think.
oceanspire t1_j796doq wrote
While I understand, when posting publicly online, people are going to simply give opinions whether requested or not. And while the comment was unsolicited, it didn’t seem mean spirited either. It was feedback. Unsolicited and unwanted, but still feedback. Replying hostilely the way OP did also was not necessary.
MitoChomp t1_j79b4sn wrote
Ahh yes I understand that the feedback was probably well intended but it also must be frustrating and discouraging spending hours on an illustration to see someone telling you "you should do that" or "don't do that that way". I understand that the reply was harsh but OP has the right to express their anger too... Those kind of feedback can be very disheartening. (I think I'll handle them worst than OP if it were to happen to me ahah)
oceanspire t1_j79eduh wrote
Understandable for sure, just giving my opinion on the matter. I completely get your side of it though
nameoftheyear_ t1_j79c8ec wrote
The argument you’re making that all online spaces are equally public arenas for feedback is frankly nuts. No normal person behaves like this. This is not an art crit subreddit.
oceanspire t1_j79et27 wrote
I’m not saying it should be. I’m saying people are just going to comment, people are going to say things. Whether it is wanted or not, it’s what people do online especially with the benefit of being anonymous behind a screen. It’s not really avoidable when posting publicly. You can block or mute, but being hostile in return is not necessary when the original comment/intention was not hostile to begin with.
nameoftheyear_ t1_j79fhs7 wrote
Sorry, but no, you’re backpedaling. What you said was: “What is the purpose of posting art if you can’t take constructive criticism?“
This is the wrong place to have this conversation, but I will leave by saying that you have no defense here if you’re claiming that you were trying to start a dialogue with something that tone-deaf and that insulting.
oceanspire t1_j79fz2j wrote
You’re right, I did say this. However, after hearing from others I’m more understanding of your side. But the point still stands that, when posting publicly, opinions are just going to come in regardless. Block, mute, ignore, whatever. But being hostile isn’t necessary. OP is allowed to post whatever wherever, but others are also allowed and are going to comment, unsolicited or not.
Edgy_Hog2435 t1_j7a95pb wrote
Freedom of speech doesn't equate freedom from consequence. My art teacher BTW laughed at the person's critique. That person knew nothing of what they spoke. "The lighting source wasn't fixed" according to them. Prof. straight up said it's like calling a red car blue after checking out the art and the comment.
If someone's being an unnecessary d#@*, hostility comes with it. Don't try defending the other person just cause "comments will come in, regardless of them being unsolicited or not". Like I said, freedom of speech ≠ freedom from consequence. "Being hostile" is also a consequence, like it or not. And it's justified in this context. So please, don't gatekeep how people react.
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Cryptic-Q t1_j799ydy wrote
I actually feel bad for the original comment, op posted this on Twitter, I bet Twitter mob came at them so they had to delete, it wasn't even mean spirited.
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Eliciden t1_j7b8vkz wrote
It's unasked for criticism. OP worked really hard on that piece, and someone coming in to give their unsolicited advice without saying anything good about it must be disheartening.
If an artist didn't ask for criticism when showing off a work they're proud of, it's rude to give them it.
IntrepidLynx6891 t1_j7983ty wrote
No one asked for your constructive criticism.
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