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CarelessExplorer t1_iv1cj7w wrote
I have to agree with you. This looks like law enforcement corruption.
ardesofmiche t1_iv1dch9 wrote
The way Christensen’s gunshot wound was described is interesting. A gunshot wound that barely bled? So little blood that deputies didn’t even notice it was a gunshot? That does vaguely sound like he was deceased at the time of shooting. But this investigation still stinks
Parking_Mountain_691 t1_iv1e6l1 wrote
Lewis county apparently is full of incompetent investigators. What a joke. There needs to be an outside investigation into this BS
crasstyfartman t1_iv1eeo1 wrote
Heartbreaking 💔
StupidizeMe t1_iv1hbat wrote
Suggests the shooter's family might have some kind of ties with the Lewis County Sheriff's Dept.
poppinwheelies t1_iv1jq83 wrote
Either the cops are attempting some strange coverup for a friend/family or they’re the dumbest, most incompetent detectives in the history of detectives. Every one of these idiots should be fired.
SatnWorshp t1_iv1kcys wrote
Was he holding his poor puppy when he was shot? The suspect said he only shot one time but the headline said they were both shot.
drdrdoug t1_iv1mfhj wrote
There is certainly something hinky here. First, one shot? One random shot killed the guy and his dog? And if I know anything from watching crime dramas, if there was little to no blood then his heart stopped immediately which means either a head shot, which would have been noticeable or a heart shot which would be a very very unlucky random shot, through the heart, and killing the dog such that the dog also was immediately immobilized (dead at his side).
This needs to get more light shined at it because something is screwey and the family needs answers and justice.
MyHappyAcnt t1_iv1nt1x wrote
Hope his family know about the new cold case law where they can request federal review of the case, sucks they have to bide their time until its deemed cold but at least there is something to do about it when police burry their crimes.
pala4833 t1_iv1pnpo wrote
Occam sez it's far more likely that the suspect was lying.
pala4833 t1_iv1pr01 wrote
That's not how "kinky" is used.
ProfessorPickaxe t1_iv1qhjy wrote
Spot on. The fucking piece of shit who shot them has actually confessed and these corrupt Keystone cops are apparently still fucking around. Unreal.
CharlieChowderButt t1_iv1qjou wrote
I bet they were going for hinky. It means “suspect.”
newsreadhjw t1_iv1qoq7 wrote
I think there are other explanations that make sense. If I’m not mistaken, when someone is unlucky enough to get shot in the heart, death is pretty much immediate and the heart stops pumping instantly, and without blood pressure there’s actually not really any blood. People bleed out from gunshots that don’t hit critical organs, because their hearts keep pumping for quite a while. It’s a crazy story either way with tons of obvious information missing. Hope the Washington State Patrol or FBI can step in to investigate the sheriff. Sounds like they were something much worse than incompetent.
ardesofmiche t1_iv1r94z wrote
I think you are mistaken in your analysis of gunshot wounds. They bleed a lot. They bleed so much. Even if the gentleman was shot directly in the heart, there’s still blood in the heart and in the vena cava that would leak out, blood pressure or not. Death is never that immediate, even people shot directly in the chest have enough residual blood pressure for like 10 seconds of consciousness
Doesn’t explain how his dog died though!
drdrdoug t1_iv1tkdg wrote
Ha, made your day with a typo. Usually people use context to correct. I meant hinky and it autocorrected and I did not notice. Glad I made your day :-) (It has been corrected)
krankyfox t1_iv1u58n wrote
Snohomish county too.
RysloVerik t1_iv1uukd wrote
There’s a solid chance everything you said is true.
pala4833 t1_iv1v2nf wrote
Dude relax, I was just having a giggle. You don't need to make it ugly. "Kinky" is a funny word to have misused, that's all.
Seattle_gldr_rdr t1_iv24n39 wrote
Seems like the only thing to investigate is how the suspect and police are connected.
BadBoiBill t1_iv24t38 wrote
Guarantee! I’ve seen small town insulated good old boys.
carpathian_crow t1_iv25tbb wrote
And based on video footage and true crime documentaries, it’s a 50/50 chance either way.
drdrdoug t1_iv287nt wrote
I agree, funny. Sorry if I gave you the impression that I was upset, din't think I was being ugly in any way, again sorry.
-Peace.
CuriousPenguinSocks t1_iv28dmv wrote
Also, they found the bullet it him, so did it go through the dog first? It just doesn't make sense.
ExtraNoise OP t1_iv293xh wrote
I thought your initial reply was totally chill and in good humor. So much so, in fact, that I think maybe pala was also making a joke about making it ugly?
Either way, I think you're good.
AdAdventurous8225 t1_iv2ahnj wrote
As I was reading this, I was thinking that someone is either family or good friends with these murderers. Would love to see the Feds step in. Because this is just a cluster f*ck now. His family needs to sue Lewis County sheriff department. Maybe a wrongful death suit too. Good family my Aunt Fanny.
AdAdventurous8225 t1_iv2av2h wrote
Is this State forest or in National forest land? I'm just curious.
ardesofmiche t1_iv2ay35 wrote
Even a gunshot directly through the heart will allow blood from the vena cava to drain out. The vena cava holds a significant amount of blood which would definitely be noticeable
Lch207560 t1_iv2c1tn wrote
Because each LEO jurisdiction gets to choose it's own form of cover up.
avitar35 t1_iv2do6c wrote
This. Is. Fucked. You cannot as a firearm owner be throwing rounds around at a popular recreational area, at one of the most popular times of the year. Thats before we get to the fact it was at night. It gives every legal firearm owner a bad name, and he couldn't even legally buy it at 20. I dont know that Ive ever seen such an atrocious investigation. At this point, a third party investigation needs to be happening lead by a different sheriffs department (rooting for King County on that one). The Lewis County Sheriffs Office needs to be held accountable for their mishandling of the case, and those members to be reprimanded.
drdrdoug t1_iv2igsj wrote
Yes, especially if he fell wound angled down.
drdrdoug t1_iv2ik8d wrote
Thanks, good take on it.
KevinCarbonara t1_iv2j7lj wrote
> And based on video footage and true crime documentaries
Please do not confuse "true crime" docs with real life. They are entertainment.
goinupthegranby t1_iv2kgc2 wrote
Wild that the Sheriff's department would actually try to push 'maybe he died from the weed he had on him' when he had been shot in the chest.
bubbamike1 t1_iv2khi3 wrote
Sounds like a small town corrupt Sheriff’s Department protecting a local.
CuriousPenguinSocks t1_iv2o8h2 wrote
That got me too, I was like, oh no, if someone shot me in the woods would my weed habit let them get away with it?
forcedintothis- t1_iv2rksh wrote
The county sheriff is horrible. He’s a corrupt, racist, anti-vaxxer. Vote him out!
Capnjack84 t1_iv2svne wrote
WTF is Lewis County Sheriffs office trying to pull? Seems like they’re trying to protect the 20yo Asbach. That needs to be investigated further just as much as the wrongful death. May have just been negligence to start but the sheriff’s office has made it a conspiracy/obstruction of justice and whole lot more.
blaaguuu t1_iv2ue3c wrote
It's kind of incredible how little sense any of the stories make... Like if I saw a movie where a criminal or the police came up with these excuses, I would say it's terrible writing - nobody would put forward a story that stupid, and expect anyone to buy it.
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CuriousPenguinSocks t1_iv2vct2 wrote
It's not just me then.. it does feel like some B grade wannabe triller/crime drama mess.
Honeyblade t1_iv2wcju wrote
And people wonder why no one likes or trusts cops.
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JustOneLastCast t1_iv2yb86 wrote
Sheriff Rob Snaza, ladies and gentlemen, law enforcement’s finest: https://m.facebook.com/thecentraliachronicle/videos/dont-be-a-sheep/187978379317504/
PM_me_urPastaRicetta t1_iv31e6q wrote
Don’t worry! The Lewis County Sheriff’s twin brother is the Thurston County Sheriff. When either department needs an investigation into their action the bros always step up to investigate each other.
Totally normal and we love it!
_party_down_ t1_iv32k4y wrote
Here’s a thought… since they very clearly are lying about so much else, maybe they’re lying about that too. Either to create a reasonable doubt for the guy they are clearly trying to protect, or to cover for their earlier incompetence/lies in not immediately finding/disclosing the gunshot wound.
Zoomalude t1_iv32xza wrote
Yep, odds are the shooter's parents are buddies/family with the cops or they go to the same church. I can just see it, the shooter told some story about it being an accident (and for all we know it was but that doesn't matter) and then it's "his life can't be ruined over an accident with an out-of-towner". Fuck this shit.
darlantan t1_iv35g9b wrote
Given how someone has already pointed out that a person has basically confessed already, I think it would be imprudent to rule out the more mundane possibility that the cops in question really are that shitty at their jobs and that this has mostly been the thin blue line trying to cover for their own initial incompetence.
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MisterIceGuy t1_iv3sh8b wrote
This article needs to be shared on more platforms!
giddygoat2769 t1_iv4abgl wrote
This is why you carry
amart005 t1_iv4c70h wrote
National Forest Land
Sparklefanny_Deluxe t1_iv4ee3b wrote
On the flip side, the Centralia journalists are 💯
St_Kevin_ t1_iv4ej1f wrote
Not just carelessly shooting either. Literally shooting a guy dead, seeing the body, then not calling for help or reporting it.
willyoumassagemykale t1_iv4ie2p wrote
This story is completely baffling
general_bojiggles t1_iv4jiu1 wrote
I just learned about these guys in my research on a candidate for sheriff in Grays Harbor County. Both Snazas endorsed him and I’ve only read negative things about them.
SpokenByMumbles t1_iv4uii4 wrote
Forensic ballistics would wrap that case up pretty quick.
weedle_juice t1_iv4xadx wrote
It’s Lewis County, so… yeah.
OwnedByBernese t1_iv5l4rw wrote
The sheriff is a Snaza…of course it’s shady.
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smegdawg t1_iv5v9p7 wrote
Absolutely.
And you would imagine a proper autopsy would find dog hair/tissue in the gunshot wound.
Just talking about the physical possibility
gus_thedog t1_iv62stt wrote
Can't leave witnesses behind.
gus_thedog t1_iv637b7 wrote
Care to elaborate?
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kabukistar t1_iv8wcqw wrote
Yeah, that "good family" line tells me how's connected to the cops or someone else powerful.
vanisaac t1_iv9b303 wrote
The shooter is from Thurston County, and the Lewis and Thurston County sheriffs are brothers. Not suggesting anything in particular, but if there is a connection that is causing this, it could run through the north. Also interesting that this is coming out right when the sheriff is in a tough reelection campaign that has had some serious political shenanigans that almost toppled the county Republican party chairperson.
vanisaac t1_iv9b7vq wrote
I already submitted my ballot.
vanisaac t1_iv9bbyd wrote
Gifford Pinchot National Forest. Specifically the Cowlitz Valley Ranger District. The crime scene is about 20 miles' drive into the forest from the local communities.
Merfkin t1_iv1avkw wrote
Really sounds like those cops were desperate for the family to drop it with all that nonsense about a heart attack. So dismissive in literally the worst possible moment. Someone definitely knows the murderer/his family in the Sheriff's Office, I'd bet money on it, they really wanted the Christensens to think it was an accident, even when they had a suspect.