Makes sense, more and more EVs are on the roads nowadays, without that gas tax money, there needs to be some way to pay for those roads.

Hopefully they would actually phase out the gas tax and not drag out during an indefinite transition period.

Ev drivers pay a multi hundred surcharge on their annual tabs to account for that, so they’re paying their share into the system.

$150 for EVs. I pay over $400 a year in gas tax, that is not an equal share.

What do you drive?

A midsized SUV, why?

The more gas you consume, the more you will pay in gas tax. So, if you have an SUV, you’ll end up paying more. If you’re a heavy driver (lots of miles), you’ll pay more.

Let’s assume you drive 10,000 miles a year. At 20 mpg (which is generous for an SUV) that’s 500 gallons of gas per year. At $0.49 per gallon tax, that’s $245 dollars per year.

Let’s say you drive 12,000 miles per year at 17 mph (perhaps better assumptions), that’s $345 per year, closer to your estimate.

A Prius driver doing 10,000 miles per year pays $117, less than an EV.

So, perhaps it feels unfair to you because you drive a lot or get low gas mileage. If you drove something more efficient, you would be more in line with the EV surcharge. I think it’s unfair to say that the EV charge is unfair because it doesn’t align with your consumption.

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Good. We need to disincentivize driving as much as possible.

EVs are heavy because of the battery weight and damage the roads more than Prius. Thus, they need to pay more.

The idea of checking the odometer is ridiculous. If I hop over to OR, which I do daily, those miles would count.. likewise road-trips to Canada, ID, etc.. and no way I’m putting a gps tracker on my car..

I’d rather pay at the pump higher taxes, fuck off with that Orwellian shit.

Not universally. Most EVs are sedans and most gas vehicles on the road are SUVs. They weigh about the same.

>I think it’s unfair to say that the EV charge is unfair because it doesn’t align with your consumption.

That is not why I am saying is unfair. As the article indicates, even gas-powered vehicles are becoming more fuel efficient. So, if you combine that with the fact there are more EVs on the road, that means there is less tax dollars coming in to fund the roads. So, my point was if I owned an EV and was driving an equal amount of mileage, I would be paying far less in taxes. Which becomes a problem for our state as a whole if we want to continue funding our roads.

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How are people supposed to get to work from rural areas? What about trucks delivering commerce? What about your Amazon packages? What about people with work trucks full of tools that can't take a bus?

That’s where dense housing instead of sprawl will help.

Thats not reality at this point.

Over my dead body

And I just bought a house 30 miles away from work because I couldn't afford one in town.

Seems reasonable to me.

And how will those who don't fill up (EVs) pay taxes?

How is that any different than if you filled up your tank in Washington and then drove in Oregon? As for the GPS, almost everyone already has GPS on their phone, I could care less if they put one in my car too.

I barely want to do drivewise and such.

My cars don't qualify for the volunteering, but I drive a lot for my current line of work. I am more concerned about the tracking and how they want to do it.

No. They are already forcing us to pay for long term care insurance through the state. This is a big NO.

Unfortunately. However, we are striving to improve this.

Nope. Aside from not wanting the gov't to have a more convenient way of tracking my movements, I drive mostly for my work.

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We need alternate reliable public transit in place so people can get around easier. There are so many people that aren’t able to use public transit bc of where they live and then you have other people that have to use private vehicles for work bc they have to have their equipment available as they work. I don’t have an answer for making people less reliant on cars but taxing the working class more bc they have to drive doesn’t sound great.

Maybe they could spend the taxes we already pay more effectively?

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EVs don’t damage the road more than a Prius in any meaningful way.

Second this… they’re out there pounding the roads too. Just as hard on the infrastructure.

Vehicle weight is one of the primary factors for road damage. EVs are heavier than comparable sized combustion engine vehicles.

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The differences are between a dump truck and a car, even a hummer and a Prius just isn’t that big of a difference.

Leaf is about 3 tons. A prius is 4. A dump truck is 36.

we will just all ride the electric monorail pod network that seattle is famous for /s

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Then when they need more money it would be brought back

For anyone wo cant do math. A typical gas tax is 49c per gallon, for a typical car that is 30 MPG for a gallon they would pay 75c per gallon, which is an increase of nearly 200%. This is a raw deal Washington, don't do it.

What is unfair to the working class people: They are forced to live far away from the city because there is no affordable housing available in the city. And that forces them to use cars for commute. We need to change it and incentivize the development and expansion of the reliable public transit.

Yes. That is definitely part of the problem.

I love how everyone is saying nope you all voted these people in who want to tax you in any way possible good job lol 😂. This tax will 100% happen