PerezosoRapido t1_j110y0l wrote on December 20, 2022 at 9:53 PM

Yeah I mean I would love to take the nephew up sledding but I don’t have chains, all season tires, and a 2WD suv. People just force the issue and wing it and wind up in a ditch.

Broccolini_Cat t1_j15fs4m wrote on December 21, 2022 at 8:18 PM

The improvements in cars actually embolden people to be more confidently risky. Thirty years ago when I hit the slopes everyone drove FWD sedans, chains on, at 25mph up the pass. Nowadays people with huge AWD SUVs and all-season tires fly by me at 60+mph.

Wellcraft19 t1_j162jur wrote on December 21, 2022 at 10:52 PM

Very true. It’s insane (crazy speeds) especially down from the pass westbound. I drive a large SUV, and not even the best tires can overcome the basic laws of physics. The larger the vehicle, the slower you should go.

MaddMardigan74 t1_j16xk5e wrote on December 22, 2022 at 2:48 AM

To be honest people in big SUVS with 4wd did the same back then and wrecked. Today there are just more idiots. As someone that grew up around the fire department I was taught 4wd also means 4wheels to stop.