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PerezosoRapido t1_j110y0l wrote

Yeah I mean I would love to take the nephew up sledding but I don’t have chains, all season tires, and a 2WD suv. People just force the issue and wing it and wind up in a ditch.

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Broccolini_Cat t1_j15fs4m wrote

The improvements in cars actually embolden people to be more confidently risky. Thirty years ago when I hit the slopes everyone drove FWD sedans, chains on, at 25mph up the pass. Nowadays people with huge AWD SUVs and all-season tires fly by me at 60+mph.

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Wellcraft19 t1_j162jur wrote

Very true. It’s insane (crazy speeds) especially down from the pass westbound. I drive a large SUV, and not even the best tires can overcome the basic laws of physics. The larger the vehicle, the slower you should go.

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MaddMardigan74 t1_j16xk5e wrote

To be honest people in big SUVS with 4wd did the same back then and wrecked. Today there are just more idiots. As someone that grew up around the fire department I was taught 4wd also means 4wheels to stop.

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