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Flash_ina_pan t1_j409vt5 wrote

Or no one should be out on the road with alcohol in their system.

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VaeVictis997 t1_j41o1fl wrote

Sure, right after we roll out European level dense and frequent public transit, across the entire state.

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IKeyLay t1_j442v7n wrote

Lack of public transportation is a very poor excuse to drink and drive

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VaeVictis997 t1_j4436rr wrote

It’s what you need if you actually want it to not happen.

We can moralize all we want about it, but that’s the reality. If it’s the only possible transport method, people are going to do it.

We should also acknowledge the reality that the risk of driving tipsy alone on a country road and on I-5 are not remotely the same. Neither are good, but the risk is not the same.

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IKeyLay t1_j443vy7 wrote

Yeah but driving yourself while drunk is almost never the only option(very very rare and circumstantial). If it is the only option then your own choices brought you there and not the lack of public transportation. Just because the odds of an accident are lower from less cars on the road doesn’t mean it’s a reasonable thing to do.

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VaeVictis997 t1_j4449ak wrote

Right, but it’s a choice that people are going to make.

Wishing that people were better isn’t a policy plan and sure isn’t going to reduce the problem.

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IKeyLay t1_j444m2n wrote

I’m not wishing they were better. I’m saying I agree with lowering the limit and increasing the punishment. I think it’s stupid all the time and needs consequences. Pretending it’s anyone else fault is a waste of time in my opinion.

People tend to do the right thing when not doing so has real life consequences. Kinda reminds me of the video I saw where a guy was standing on the curb near a puddle and people drove through and splashed him. But when he was holding a brick in his hand then people drove around the puddle to avoid splashing him

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Xeroeffingcell32 t1_j40brwk wrote

Just make drinking alcohol illegal. It's killed more people than cigarettes.

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CowboyJoker90 t1_j40cisk wrote

It worked out so well the first time, let’s try again!

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Flash_ina_pan t1_j40cr8a wrote

No need to go that far, but people could at least try not to be assholes about it

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CranberryNo4852 t1_j43on1f wrote

Ban cell phones, they cause traffic accidents too. And strictly speaking you don’t need a cell phone

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Xeroeffingcell32 t1_j43q5m0 wrote

The person affected by alcohol consumption is not the same as distracted drivers, the fact you would relate a drug and a communication device shows your age and that you must cope and exist with alcoholic beverages. Ok Boomer.

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CranberryNo4852 t1_j43suit wrote

Is your concern dangerous driving or drug use in and of itself? Are you some kind of religious nut or something?

Please tell me more about my life, I’m curious.

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