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VaeVictis997 t1_j41o1fl wrote

Sure, right after we roll out European level dense and frequent public transit, across the entire state.

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IKeyLay t1_j442v7n wrote

Lack of public transportation is a very poor excuse to drink and drive

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VaeVictis997 t1_j4436rr wrote

It’s what you need if you actually want it to not happen.

We can moralize all we want about it, but that’s the reality. If it’s the only possible transport method, people are going to do it.

We should also acknowledge the reality that the risk of driving tipsy alone on a country road and on I-5 are not remotely the same. Neither are good, but the risk is not the same.

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IKeyLay t1_j443vy7 wrote

Yeah but driving yourself while drunk is almost never the only option(very very rare and circumstantial). If it is the only option then your own choices brought you there and not the lack of public transportation. Just because the odds of an accident are lower from less cars on the road doesn’t mean it’s a reasonable thing to do.

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VaeVictis997 t1_j4449ak wrote

Right, but it’s a choice that people are going to make.

Wishing that people were better isn’t a policy plan and sure isn’t going to reduce the problem.

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IKeyLay t1_j444m2n wrote

I’m not wishing they were better. I’m saying I agree with lowering the limit and increasing the punishment. I think it’s stupid all the time and needs consequences. Pretending it’s anyone else fault is a waste of time in my opinion.

People tend to do the right thing when not doing so has real life consequences. Kinda reminds me of the video I saw where a guy was standing on the curb near a puddle and people drove through and splashed him. But when he was holding a brick in his hand then people drove around the puddle to avoid splashing him

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