Nice shot, though personally I think it’s just Tahoma

Oh dang, you are right! Thank you for letting me know.

Honestly, no one outside of the person you responded to calls it Tahoma either. Everyone just calls it Mt Rainier. Call it Tahoma if you want but it's not like there is a local custom to call it Tahoma (like Denali, for example) - just FYI.

The original name is better and it should be changed back. A name that means, "Mother of all waters" vs, being named after a man who fought against the US in the Revolutionary War.

Honestly no one would ever even know who that man is except for the people who complain that it was named after him, so that’s some Streisand Effect for you. But, for me and surely 99.99% of other people in the region, Rainier just means a gorgeous mountain and gorgeous area with an enormous amount of fun things to do and great memories, so personally I wouldn’t want it changed just because some people want to copy Denali’s/Mt McKinley’s footsteps, which is again a completely different situation because the people in that area actually only called it Denali for more than 100 years if I remember correctly.

Lol. Besides for the Indigenous peoples and people who respect said indigenous you mean?

Rainier or Tahoma, means the same thing when it comes to simply describing it as a gorgeous mountain with fun things to do. Also, a lot natives still call it Tahoma.

If anything calling it Tahoma makes it more beautiful because we are acknowledging the history of the area instead of some random dude some explorer liked.

Lol, you don’t even know who he his yet you’re defending whitewashing native culture to honor him?

You are correct. No one calls it Tahoma, except Internet SJWs.

Nope, actually plenty of people call it the proper name irl. Especially younger people who look down on whitewashing cultural history.

Not everyone is cool with cultural erasure.

Born and lived 52 years in Tacoma (I'm sorry, should I say təqʷuʔməʔ). Have 2 "younger" woke kids educated by the Public Schools. Literally no one, even them, calls it Tahoma outside of you keyboard warriors.

> to honor him

No, it has nothing to do with him. Again you’re the only people who bring him up.

Natives have been here for several hundred years, and they call it Tahoma. History didn't start when the white guys showed up

Continuing to call something his name is honoring him…

Lmfao.

Lol, have you ever considered that you and your children are in fact not wholly representative of the state? Or did that just never cross your mind. Your generation is plagued with racism, so guess what, they’re more than a bit biased.

Lol, instead of actually offering a coherent counterpoint to why it is not racism they blocked me. I wonder why?

It’s not necessarily the original name but an earlier name. It was likely called many things by various people and tribes over the centuries. Tahoma is just the anglicized name of what one group called it at the time Europeans arrived.

You're not technically wrong, but still, it minimizes the fact a bunch of random people showed up said, "This is our land now, we're renaming everything, banning your language and culture, and removing you from your land."

I think it's important to recognize the injustice of it all, and calling it Tahoma is a small nod to that.

Oh, here comes the "racist" accusation. Typical. Good day. Blocked.

And you are the "representative of the State"?

Guaranteed if you go outside of the King/Pierce/Snohomish SJW dominated metroplex and you say the name "Tahoma", people are going to think "Toyota Pickup"

Here we go again.....

It’s almost like this is an important and ongoing conversation that needs to be had…

And the pickup is Tacoma hun

Yep...See how ridiculous this is?

Nope. People fought for decades to rename Denali, and now it is recognized as such by the Department of the Interior.

What is ridiculous is the number of people who are ok with cultural erasure to honor a man who fought against the founding of the US…

You people are insufferable.... Should we also change the name(s) of Vancouver? Whidbey Island? Puget Sound (oh you probably prefer the equally ridiculous "Salish Sea")

The list goes on and on. And on.... At what point do you and your SJW cohorts become satisfied? When NOTHING has a name? Because I am CERTAIN the people that were here before the Lushootseed called it something else. As did the people who were here before them...

Why would you have a problem renaming them?

I can think of a reason…

Im on pins and needles....Do tell....Oh wait...is it...

RACISIM-REEEEEE!!!!

Well I have yet to see a SINGLE one of you people actually convey a sound and rationale argument…

So it the shoe fits…

I’m 33; I learned the name Tahoma when I was young, and not from the internet. There are a lot of people that know its previous name.

So what is the basis of this disturbing you so much? Why can’t the name be changed if you say it’s been called something else before Tahoma. Seems like you really care.

Okay grandpa let's get you to bed

1st - us normies (non SJW types) don't care any longer if you call us "racist". You all have removed the venom of that word with over use.

You know very little about me - and if you think I'm a "racist" because of our brief and (after point 2) terminated interaction, then you prove my point.

Point 2 - Do you not understand you (because of your SJW blinders) are UNABLE to recognize ANY "rationale (sic) argument"? Nothing short of white/patriarchy erasure is enough for you.

Go tilt at windmills elsewhere.

I DON'T care - name it Candy Nipples Shoots Fire.

What I do care about is the idiocy and virtue signalling of SJWs with the holier than thou tut tutting.

I just like the sound of the words better. Rainier sounds sneery and mean to me and Salish Sea is a million times more poetic and fun to say than Puget Sound. Tahoma is also easy to say and unique to here, unlike Rainier.

Probably some of the more difficult to pronounce in English places will never change so you'll have that.

Also, some places are confusing, such as all the Marginal Ways in Seattle. I would like those to get new names too. We could even vote democratically on them.

Actually most decent people do care about being called racist, you’re further proving me right…

If anything that would be true for your SJW use… fighting for social justice isn’t something anyone is ashamed of.

And it’s adorable to claim I don’t understand any rationale after completing and wholly failing to make any…

Which ones?

The latest occupants of the land before american westward expansion or the ones those indigenous people took the land from? Maybe you mean the people before that? Maybe the first humans who laid eyes on the land?

What did the natives before them call it?

Lol, I know I’m in the moral right when you have to resort to that level of semantics to try to poke holes in my fundamental argument.

Keep telling yourself that.

It bad for a group of people to move into a new area and forcefully take over but don't pretend that the latest tribe with a name for a mountain is somehow more "right" than American settlers moving west.

I will, because I am in the right lmfao.

Keep excusing cultural erasure, doesn’t look sus whatsoever lol

Rear Admiral Rainier never saw the mountain, never climbed it. Vancouver named it after “his friend”. Like someone else mentioned before Rainier fought against the US in the revolutionary war.

It's so freaking gorgeous.

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And they live in a state NAMED AFTER THE FIRST PRESIDENT. They don’t see or what to see the irony of honoring a traitor in this state. 🤦🏼‍♀️

I would say it is hilarious… but honestly it’s more concerning than it is funny

Literally these “SJWs” are doing nothing but refer to it as Tahoma. Meanwhile the true snowflakes are throwing a hissy fit about it.

Some of the natives. It wasn’t unanimous yet somehow one tribe wins out over the others.

Sort of like when it was named Rainier.

While it isn't unanimous between the tribes, it shouldnt be named after the white guy who "discovered" it.

Why not? It’s been in popular and accepted use for more than 100 years. There’s no need to change to what it was “originally” when there ISN’T a single name it was originally.

Rainier is just fine.

Because it wasnt discovered by him? What does popular even mean? It's the official name given by the government

It’s the name everyone uses. It’s known worldwide as Mt Rainier. “Popular use” isn’t a big mystery.

There’s no need to change it except anti-White bigotry.

This is what happens when someone invades the Reddit echo chamber. You seem shocked someone would disagree with you. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who are just fucking tired with the constant effort to shit on everything.

Leave Rainier alone.

>There’s no need to change it except anti-White bigotry.

Ah, got it. I'd love to hear your take on the US military renaming bases that we're named after confederate generals.

Indians

>History didn't start when the white guys showed up

Sure didn't. But putting names on maps did! 🤪

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Fun fact: the Puyallup tribal alphabet wasn’t created until the mid 1800’s and was not finalized until around 1970.

So any spelling of “Tahoma” would, by necessity, be using a tribal written language that didn’t even exist when Rainier was named.

While we are busy bashing western civilization for every evil under the sun, let’s maybe stop and think about how useful English is.

Another fun fact: the Yakama tribe changed names a few years back. The tribe did not have a written language and there were several copies of the treaty. Some spelled it “Yakima”, some spelled it “Yakama.” For almost 100 years everyone was fine with Yakima, until the tribe decided it needed to be changed. The city basically said do whatever you want, we’re good. That’s why they are spelled differently.