7evenPoint128 t1_j9ulxm7 wrote on February 24, 2023 at 5:54 PM

Reply to comment by instantinternet in Rooftop overdoses, death lead to temporary license suspension for Worcester cigar bar by moisheah

That's the least relevant part of this issue. The location was accessed through the bar with employees, which very much puts the liability on the bar and possibly the building owners.

bartnd t1_j9vrqi9 wrote on February 24, 2023 at 10:24 PM

I'd definitely put some responsibility on the building owners. The basement in the Michaels building connects to a number of other areas.

If they did go through Michael's to get to the basement, then there's definitely a responsibility of the establishment. You can't have random people walking into the basement if it's employees only. I haven't been in that basement in 20-odd years but when I was it was the dishwasher and the keg cooler but I assume it hasn't been built out to be a functional part of the establishment.

madhatmatt2 t1_j9ym6uk wrote on February 25, 2023 at 3:02 PM

As someone who was a drug addict for a long time there’s no fucking way on earth it should be blamed on the owners, imagine you work your whole life to build up your business and some scumbag drug addict takes his buddies up there with some overloaded dope and dies and you get blamed for it.

bartnd t1_j9yq3os wrote on February 25, 2023 at 3:31 PM

Not blaming the owners for the overdoses, but you can't go unscathed for having non-employees walking around employee-only areas and beyond.

instantinternet t1_j9v6i3g wrote on February 24, 2023 at 8:06 PM

I can’t see punishing the owner because he employed drug addicts. Liability nothing, seems everyone is on drugs these days

7evenPoint128 t1_j9vidfr wrote on February 24, 2023 at 9:22 PM

Restaurants and bars have a higher responsibility for customer welfare. The fact they accessed the roof through their location is the trouble. It sounds like two employees provided access and other employees neglected to reveal information about the access point.

instantinternet t1_j9vm73h wrote on February 24, 2023 at 9:47 PM

Do you think if this happened at a McDonalds they’d suspend the license? People OD at McDonald’s all the time

7evenPoint128 t1_j9yplra wrote on February 25, 2023 at 3:27 PM

Thats not the same. There will always be junkies and ODs, but in this case, employees facilitated and that goes against the job. If that were the end of the case, they should be fired and business is fine, but the second problem is the other employees not revealing information about access to the troubled roof. That raises red flags about the entire staff.