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-Horatio_Alger_Jr- t1_irxbbn7 wrote

I think it is just virtue signaling. Quinsigamond was the name of the plantation. They do not want want to change the name of the lake closest to them.

Does UMass go through every product they purchase to make sure today's slave labor is not use to produce those products?

If they wanted to fight oppression, they could do it, changing a street name does nothing but put a feather in their cap.

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CatumEntanglement t1_iry7rgt wrote

I also want to know if they are going to pay for each and every resident along Plantation Street the fees associated with changing their address on governmental forms, like deeds and getting a new issued ID/drivers license?? UMMS wants it so bad, so THEY should be shelling out the $$. If not them...would the city of worcester do it? VERY doubtful. So OF COURSE it will be on the residents of Plantation street.

It goes much farther than just changing a street name, because there are real life issues associated with someone's address being changed. Like I hope the people who live on and own property on Plantation Street go to that council meeting and express how time consuming AND expensive it will be for a major road to be changed because someone decided one morning their CV would look better when they smugly add in that they got "that terrible slavery road" changed in the area under "diversity and inclusion". 100% this is a stunt to make someone's resume look better so they can get promoted or get a better paying job.

There is a whole history of this steet that I've sure the person initating the name change is unaware of. In 1637, the first settlement of Worcester was called the “Village of Quinsigamond” or the “Quinsigamond Plantation.”  Plus...this isn't re-naming a street with an OBVIOUS Jim crow era nod, like "Lynchburg" or "Robert E Lee". I guarantee you that this is coming from someone who does not know Worcester history, doesn't live on Plantation Street, and probably doesn't even live in Worcester.

I am all about equality and equity in the workplace, but this kind of stuff grinds my gears because it it such an obvious attempt at virtue signaling in the worse way. Like smugly saying "I did something"..... without you know....actually putting time and effort doing sonething that acrually helps to fight against implicit bias in the workplace or institutionized racism in the sciences. This is the epitome of lazy I'm-gonna-do-something-but- don't-want-to-put-in-effort PR move to make people feel better about themselves.

Like...how about doing something for the Worcester community that positively affects people... like more UMass outreach into the worcester public schools, which on a whole represent underrepresented minorities, and help these kind of kids in the sciences? You know...like a school-to-STEM pipeline instead of a school-to-prison pipeline? I think that would be MUCH better than slapping a new name on a street and saying "oh racism is fixed!!"...and "welp, it's your problem now with the address change thingy but I SURE DO feel better". Oh wait....but going into the community that entails ACTUAL effort. No no...pressuring the city to change a street name will be just as good and make them feel better about themselves that thet did something for "the POC". When come on.... it's self serving bullshit made to make themselves feel better.

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LedZeppelin58 t1_iry91c2 wrote

Mic drop

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CatumEntanglement t1_iryaliz wrote

And I'm glad I'm not the only one to see through this thinly veiled cosmetic attempt at "fixing racism" by doing nothing but making it harder on the current residents of Plantation street (by the way are majority POC and who will be forced to bare the brunt of time/fees to change their address).

Thankfully seems like someone on the council board sees through this too: from the Boston globe

>The Worcester City Council is expected to hear the petition at its weekly meeting Wednesday at 6:30 p.m. From there, it will be referred to the Public Works Committee, which oversees local infrastructure related to streets and public buildings.

>George Russell, chair of the Public Works Committee, called UMass’s petition “not well thought out” and “inconsiderate” to the home and business owners along Plantation Street, which stretches more than 4 miles. Changing the name, Russell said, would require hundreds of people to update their drivers’ licenses, passports, mortgages, and more.

>“It’s one thing if it was a small street, and the people who owned property or rented properties all came together,” Russell said. “It’s almost like asking each one of them to move.”

>Russell said he previously spoke to Anderson and suggested creating an honorary name for the section of the road that runs along campus.

>He said he understands the university’s concerns, but noted that there are likely other parts of Worcester’s history that may be offensive to some and said the city has more pressing issues to address.

>“If you look up the word plantation in the dictionary, there’s no reference to slavery,” Russell said. “I don’t know any history of a plantation or plantations [in Worcester].”

>Plantation Street was the first road built on the Quinsigamond Plantation, a village established by European settlers in the 1600s, according to an account of local history by the City of Worcester. The site was destroyed in King Phillip’s War, a bloody conflict between settlers and native tribes including the Nipmuc, and rebuilt as Worcester, according to the Worcester Memorial Auditorium.

>Russell’s district includes the bottom portion of Plantation Street and all of Plantation Terrace.

So this is someone who actually represents the regular people who live on plantation-named roads. Good! Thankfully they are thinking about their constituents and not a corporate entity telling the city what to do at the expense of "the little people".

It honestly makes me sick that there are people who are wanting to do this without regard for how it will affect the lives of those who live on plantation-named roads. Just so a six-figure paid diversity consultant umass hired can add to their resume that "they helped fight racism" by doing the most minimal effort possible. People throw around the term virtue-signalling way too mich nowadays (like the boy who cried wolf)...but THIS...this is an example of exactly what virtue-signalling is and how it does nothing to actually help real societal issues. Again...who are going to be the ones paying fees for name changes?? Notice UMass isn't coming out to say they'll be forking over all that money to the worcester residents affected!! Who...again are majority POC who live on plantation-named roads. Yeah...."let's put a monetary burden on some POC people on the Worcester community so we can feel smug when we drive home to Northborough". Litterally the opposite of how you help a community fight against racism.

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[deleted] OP t1_iryc8wd wrote

Fucking bravo, man. Bravo.

School-to-STEM pipeline - I love that idea! I hope that you'll call into the city council meeting and speak on the things you've said. They're meeting tomo., 6.30!

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CatumEntanglement t1_iryh3da wrote

I actually do what I preach...I have POC high school students come to my lab at umass to mentor them in 1) what a STEM career can look like, 2) help them see how a STEM career is something they can do, and 3) help them get into more colleges with a lab internship on their CV. Basically give them opportunities that otherwise wouldn’t be afforded to them, unless they cane from rich families with connections. But by and large, I'm the one who does the heavy lifting trying to do outreach into area schools. The diversity initiative at umass is a joke in most ways that can have practical applications to ACTUALLY help out the local community. Basically all they have to offer is red tape and "oh that sounds like a good idea" but don't follow through. They COULD invest all the time and money from this street-naming campaign into expanding the diversity outreach people like me, and a few other labs, are already doing on our own time. Like I'd LOVE to have an admin assistant dedicated to communicating with area guidance counselors and interested research labs to match each other up with interested HS students. But I guess the street nane thing is FAR too important than expanding the "silly" notion of getting HS students in a school-to-STEM pipeline.

I also cannot explain enough how much this street thing is a big PR bandaid on a much larger UMass issue has with POC employees. I feel like it's a big distraction IMO....a big fat red herring. UMMS has an issue with department heads not promoting or hiring women/POC people when their CVs are top notch. Looking at top level leadership positions in departments, there is a lack of both women and POC....and that is definitely not due to a lack of excellence women and POC have on the job. There also is a great deal of ablism through UMMS leadership, that those who aren't neurotypical are not given promotions even though their work output clearly should be recognized. I can tell you in absolute terms that people in the UMMS community are not complaining about the street name. The biggest issues in the community right now are the anti-labor activities and institutionalized rascism internal to the medical center. I feel those issues are trying to be rug swept with this new street name PR campaign.

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[deleted] OP t1_iryyj62 wrote

I've found that a lot of the time, this "look at all the progressive things we're doing!" stuff that corporations do is a fig leaf for actual problems they're making.

You, though, sound like a mensch. Imagine if they did that, if they just paid the same salary they're giving the DEI guy (probably they could hire two coordinators for the guidance councilors!) to just keep a pipeline from North, South, Doherty, Burncoat, UPHS, Claremont...that would do wonders for the community.

I really hope someone will say this part especially at the city council meeting.

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HuggySnuggle t1_iryqtyz wrote

That's exactly it. It would cost a goddamn fortune to update every map, every address, every form, every street sign. They couldn't do this if they wanted to, which means they have no intention of actually going through with it. In other words, this is 100% virtue signalling, designed to show the world how 'woke' and 'ree-ree' they are without actually doing anything.

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420blazeit69nubz t1_is0nf62 wrote

You hit the nail on the head. Least effort to make them feel better they “did something” without going the long and arduous way of actually fixing and dismantling the true issues.

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JowCola t1_is3n5r0 wrote

>I guarantee you that this is coming from someone who does not know Worcester history, doesn't live on Plantation Street, and probably doesn't even live in Worcester.

Five bucks says they probably don't even live here and it's being pushed by some out-of-state Clarkie asshole Urban Studies major.

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CatumEntanglement t1_is3q8y1 wrote

It's actually coming from the chancellor of the school, Michael Collins...and he's pushing a consultant (umass hired at 6 figures to do a campus analysis on diversity) to push the plantation-slavery narrative to get the street change. This is not something altruistic from Collins because he's concerned about the word "Plantation" at all... It's a PR red herring to do 2 things: distract from the racial inequalities in things such as promotions within UMMS and to help UMMS's brand.

I was asking around at work today what the inside take was regarding UMass's insistence all of a sudden to push Worcester to rename Plantation street. The reality is no one cares about the street name b/c there are far more pertinent things going on within Umass like anti-labor and discriminatory practices within departments.

What I heard was that UMMS is looking to rename the other streets around campus, such a North road and South road that are w/in campus to be more "branded", i.e. like how other research campuses name roads to be "science-y" like "Einstein circuit" or "Curie Way". They want to rename Plantation street to be more branded because the new big building being built will have a Plantation street address. UMMS leadership has been wanting the addresses to their main research buildings to be made more research-centric, like "Discovery Street" or something like that.

It's just corporate BS, like it usually is. The real push is coming from the chancellor that a new street name would help the UMMS brand and get more big donors. They are weaponizing virtue signaling as the excuse to make it about racial connotations, or else the city of worcester would just laugh at their request to change the name of a 4 mile long street. They aren't putting in a request to change the names of north and south roads until the Plantation street situation is figured out, because if they did it now...it would be obvious that UMass’s real MO was selfishly to get a better branding opportunity.

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thisisntmynametoday t1_irze48j wrote

Stop googling historical facts to support a weak argument.

Worcester’s first settlement was 1673, not 1637 like your Wikipedia article states.

You know what did happen in the area in 1637? English colonists started the Pequot War, and either killed or enslaved the Pequots, wiping out the tribe.

Quinsigamond is the Nipmuc name of the lake. Plantation was added by the English settlers. Those same settlers who killed and stole all this land from its original inhabitants.

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darksideofthemoon131 t1_iryi5fl wrote

> Does UMass go through every product they purchase to make sure today's slave labor is not use to produce those products?

Guarantee they use Nestlé products somewhere.

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Hate_Gatekeeping t1_irxehob wrote

Quinsigamond Plantation was the name of the first european settlement here. The name Quinsigamond itself has nothing to do with colonization and everything to do with the local natives.

You are using false equivalencies to support a very flawed argument.

As far as "today's slave labor", it has nothing to do with foreign slavery and everything to do with an attempt to correct mistakes of the past, and to not glorify any references to those mistakes. Its the exact same reason why confederate statues should be removed from public lands.

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[deleted] OP t1_irye4rc wrote

You think Plantation Street's name - and remember, before the 1800s, farms were called plantations - is the same as a Confederate statue?

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thisisntmynametoday t1_iryitjo wrote

Many Nipmuc and Wampanoags were sold into slavery during the colonial years, especially in the aftermath of King Philip’s War.

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[deleted] OP t1_irz19j5 wrote

So then your problem is with the history of the region. That has nothing to do with the word "plantation."

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Cheap_Coffee t1_is0z5cy wrote

More correctly: as a *result* of wars.

It was standard practice in those days to sell any (indigenous) prisoners taken during the wars. Most were shipped out to the Caribbean. They were not, by and large, used as slaves locally -- there were already more than enough indentured servants on hand to do the work.

This also started well before King Philip's War.

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