Submitted by chewyma t3_101u74x in WorcesterMA

Is anyone aware of a program for heavy drinkers and smokers to stop both? Either in-house or out? I'm not a drink by means of waking up and drinking. I'm a 5 to 7 IPA beer every night guy. I'm sure it's more of a habit, but I can't seem to stop on my own and need help.

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zertech t1_j2qhrbd wrote

Respect for asking for advice and acknowledging an issue. Not always easy.

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Eve617 t1_j2q817q wrote

If you have a primary care doctor mention it to them. There is medication they can give you that can help. Search Reddit for support groups! Good luck! It's worth it. You're worth it!

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legalpretzel t1_j2pky8a wrote

There are plenty of options, but it really depends on where beds (or spots) are available and what your insurance will cover. I might start by calling your insurer to get a list of covered programs and then start calling programs to see who has an open bed.

Good luck OP, you can do this!

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killakitten t1_j2r0klt wrote

I hated it, but AA was the only thing that worked for me. It will probably not help your smoking issues.

I think that most programs will hold AA style group meetings. Don't be discouraged by the religious/cult atmosphere. After about 3 years I left AA and have been sober over 15 years.

Makes you wonder if there is something wrong with you and alcohol has become more than just a friend.

I still miss it Knowing that diving or slo mo falling back into it will have the same consequences - LOSS on a massive scale.

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chewyma OP t1_j2ra62f wrote

That's always discourage me from a meetings is the whole religious aspect of things that is just not for me one person is always believed in a higher power but not necessarily the whole religious side of things

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bryter_layter_76 t1_j2rcqnp wrote

You might be surprised at how AA deals with the concept of a higher power. I am very non-religious and it was a turn off for me as well, but if you even listen to the founders early explanations of the concept, it may start to make more sense to you and be easier to swallow. Good luck friend!

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smallroundbird t1_j2pt4ub wrote

I just heard a radio ad for Aware, an at-home program for addiction. Good luck, it’ll be worth it

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J-daddy96 t1_j2poilq wrote

Just find a local AA and listen to some stories

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Alfajiri_1776-1453 t1_j2q1v13 wrote

There's quite a few. In the Bell Hill area there's a few to pick from. You can search recovery on maps or check with your insurance (if applicable). DM me if you need more info and I can check with a few of my contacts for more specifics.

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jpm01609 t1_j2r6hhg wrote

go to an "open" AA meeting, sit int he back, dont go there with alcohol on your breath, make friends after, just be respectful and listen to some stories....keep in mind every AA meeting is run differently and have a different focus.....learn what it's all about...try a VARIETY of diff meetings in different locations and towns too for instance I found in Worcester some hard core heavy drug users but in Oxford (sunday) more middle class types who discussed more things like pill addiction etc

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NoImNotMadOnline t1_j2rhx9w wrote

Do you get withdrawals if you don’t drink? If you have private insurance you should be able to get into a detox if you need it that’s better than Queen Street.

I’d echo what people are saying about going to an AA meeting. AA didn’t get me sober but I learned a lot from it, and most importantly there’s people that have been in your position before and would love to help you however they can.

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Surlysquirrely t1_j2sfwhs wrote

Ask your primary care doctor about taking naltrexone, it's helped me cut down on alcohol intake considerably. My goal was not to abstain entirely so it might not be an option if that's your goal. Either way, good luck to you!

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New-Vegetable-1274 t1_j2xfeca wrote

Hi, 43 years sober here, also ex 2 pack a day smoker. Everyone is different but I can tell you, there are no half measures, either you're all in or not at all. For me it was terrifying, I didn't think it was possible. I decided it had to be cold turkey and that was that. It wasn't easy but easier than I expected. If you break it down into hours, those hours become days and so on. Every 24 hrs there is a noticeable difference especially with the booze. Up until then my life was one long hang over. I felt terrible the first couple days but life went on and I figured if I could go to work hung over everyday I could do this. After that waking up sober was a whole new experience, I wasn't booze sick and actually felt good. I focused on nutrition and exercise, both help. Cigarettes are different in that they fit into your life a different way. Smoking is ingrained into your daily routine and associated with everything you do. When you quit there are a million times a day you miss smoking, the morning cigarette, a few on the way to work, smoke breaks at work, ( back in the day you could smoke at work ) after lunch and so on. I could smoke a pack a night if I was at a bar. The good thing about smoking is that from day one you'll only have moments out of hours when you're Jonesing but it only lasts a few minutes and then you are100% OK. It took me about a week to get over the nicotine loss but that's not the real problem. Filling the gap of what to do with all the times you would be smoking and things associated with it. I think that's where everyone is different and you find your own way to cope. It only took about two weeks to really not miss smoking but longer to change my routine. Here's the upside of both. I'm pushing 70 and have no health problems, not on any medication, walk 2 miles everyday and can run up a flight of stairs without getting winded. There's a lot of hereditary illnesses in my family like heart problems and diabetes, I don't have any. My MD can't believe I was a smoker, my lungs are pink, clear and there's no scarring. I sleep like a baby and still have good wood although my desire is diminished. Anyway, do it you'll never regret it I highly recommend AA even if you're convinced you're not an alcoholic. AA is the help and support you need, good people and nobody judges you, and it's all unconditional. I still do meetings for the social aspects and to help others.

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petal14 t1_j2pt66z wrote

Recovery Dharma meetings might also be something to look into. You can find them on line.

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HappyExperience9788 t1_j2sgmur wrote

Adcare detox then go to their 28 day program in the same building.Talk to the counselor there they might recommend futher treatment like Salvation army, halfway house or just AA meetings.

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simplejack19 t1_j2u9dck wrote

What do you have for insurance? I stayed at an inpatient to detox at McLean hospital. From what I understand the AA and “rehab” centers they have around town are pretty primitive in comparison. Just my experience: I would recommend an inpatient like McLean or Tara Vista (sp?)

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noxiousmomentum t1_j2s4pe8 wrote

reduce to a couple beers for 4 days while you smoke weed. just transition to weed and then stop weed

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