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we-overcome-us t1_j9w2faf wrote

Wouldn't get what?

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we-overcome-us t1_j9w4t0c wrote

I'm talking to you though.

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[deleted] t1_j9w603u wrote

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we-overcome-us t1_j9w6s7s wrote

So what did you mean by that?

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we-overcome-us t1_j9w7z18 wrote

So what are your thoughts on it? Why do Catholics remain in a church with such a prolific history of child sexual abuse?

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we-overcome-us t1_j9w9kr1 wrote

I'm not particularly interested in convincing people to leave. I'm genuinely curious. I'm not a member of any church, but if I found out that Starbucks had a long history of child abuse and sex crimes, I wouldn't go to Starbucks, especially not with my kids. So why do Catholics continue going to church? If you have an honest answer I'd be open to hearing it.

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Flames1913 t1_j9xagwf wrote

If you want an honest engagement, I have been convinced by the theological and epistemological arguments laid out by writers like the doctors of the church and have yet to see convincing disprovings of their writings. I am bound to a system that is deeply, deeply flawed but represents what I believe to be the legitimate body of the Church of Christ, who I think was the Son of God. I will go to church, and advocate for changes in the Church but as a believer in the Bible I'm obligated to attend.

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we-overcome-us t1_j9wc0tx wrote

Humor me, I'm not as stupid as you might think.

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we-overcome-us t1_j9wcy11 wrote

I used to be a Methodist Christian and my stepmother is Catholic so I have a pretty good idea of what Catholics believe.

Next time you don't want to explain yourself, maybe don't say anything at all. Waste of everyone's energy.

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[deleted] t1_j9wdwil wrote

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we-overcome-us t1_j9wdzks wrote

I don't know, that's why I asked -_-

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we-overcome-us t1_j9wj54w wrote

Again, next time might as well just keep your mouth shut. The persecution complex gets old.

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we-overcome-us t1_j9wjxt5 wrote

You think I'm way more pretentious than I actually am. I asked you a serious question in good faith with no ill intentions and you just want to throw a pity party. Whatever.

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we-overcome-us t1_j9wkf8r wrote

I know it's the internet but you are awful at reading tone.

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thriller24 t1_j9x1oim wrote

Catholics believe that you can be forgiven for any sin as long as you confess. That’s why they just shuffle “problematic” Priests around to different churches/schools.

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jojammin t1_j9wrjpf wrote

You're right. I could never understand why you support pedos every Sunday. I get you were brainwashed as a child, but at some point you have to wake up

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Expendable_Red_Shirt t1_j9yxtyq wrote

>You wouldn't get it.

Originally I was going to say that's because you couldn't explain it, which means you're probably wrong. But you're probably right in this for me. I wouldn't get it.

For example, as someone in a position of trust with people I'm a mandated reporter. Even though it means I have to do uncomfortable things it means I'm protecting innocent people. I embrace that part of my job.

The church has fought off being mandated reporters and in fact hides things from the government as part of what they do. I'll never understand putting people, including children, at risk for more abuse. And I'll never understand people who support those institutions.

Edit: I can give an even better concrete example. The Church won't release it's report about the schools in Canada. They know who committed which crimes. They're all old. People just want confirmation. Church won't give it to them. I won't ever understand.

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Expendable_Red_Shirt t1_j9zbs7t wrote

You think this is about moral superiority?

Not a general concern for people's wellbeing?

That's pretty cynical of you.

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Expendable_Red_Shirt t1_j9zq1lm wrote

Maybe for you...

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Expendable_Red_Shirt t1_ja1b0fr wrote

I’m not looking for any of this shit.

But you are answering the question I guess. People deflect and do mental gymnastics to avoid thinking about it.

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