ScootyHoofdorp t1_j7pwi22 wrote
Reply to comment by MedicalSpecializer in 23 Baltimore schools have zero students proficient in math, per state test results by bobbyw24
Holy shit this wasn't going where I expected it to. Your attitude is reprehensible. To just permanently write off an entire swath of the city's population (and by extension millions of Americans in similar situations) as beyond hope is vile and cold. I hope you're never in charge of any kind of policy. The cycle won't be easy to break, but the macroeconomics of this country don't really even allow for us to make a targeted, sustained effort. But that doesn't mean that will always be the case. These are people we're talking about, not unruly pets.
magnoliabluebonnet t1_j7q42sg wrote
It’s legitimately one of the most sociopathic comments I’ve ever read here. Insane that a person actually thinks this way and sees nothing wrong with it.
MedicalSpecializer t1_j7q5210 wrote
oooh sorry my value system emphasizes factoring externalities into total costs and benefits and recognizing that interventions across the board are largely ineffective and thus i come up with different responses to problems and that scares you so you call me names oooh
magnoliabluebonnet t1_j7q6m04 wrote
You have serious issues. Seek help.
MedicalSpecializer t1_j7pxxxv wrote
The students don’t care, the cycle won’t break because these students aren’t going to put the momentum to break it because they understand that their life will not meaningfully, materially improve even if they do get a decent education. They’ve been largely locked into poverty, permanently, and there’s no interventions that can break that. It’s best to provide palliative, post-education resources to make sure that they’re comfortable, safe, and out of the way.
default_laura t1_j7q2f1c wrote
What the fuck is wrong with you?
MedicalSpecializer t1_j7q36al wrote
What’s wrong with recognizing that all people deserve safety, peace, and comfort, irrespective of their (lack of) economic productivity? Not everyone has potential, that’s okay, they should still be well-cared for and thought of.
default_laura t1_j7r6fmq wrote
I am all for UBI, but this is the worst kind of faux benevolence.
You are discounting the potential and erasing the agency of entire groups of people based on loose statistics and economic potential. This is not a spreadsheet, it’s a community. Do you not understand how utterly backwards and repulsive this attitude is, or do you just not care?
Have you never gone through periods of growth? Have you never, after guidance and self reflection, made meaningful change?
Sometimes it takes people years, even decades. Sometimes they aren’t able to sustain it. But if they want it, they should always have the choice, they should always have the opportunity. They should never just be written off because some rando decided their stats didn’t look promising. Fucking gross.
Cheomesh t1_j7qpkkq wrote
>there’s no interventions that can break that
Then how the hell did I get out
MedicalSpecializer t1_j7pzjau wrote
oh and tens, if not hundreds of millions of Americans should be written off. they’re unpleasant, unproductive, unimaginative, and/or unintelligent. the negative external costs are higher than their economic value. it does little good to keep them in the workforce, pay them to stay unemployed and quiet, we will all be better off
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