Flipping a Mansion in Homeland

Submitted by GingerMan027 t3_11aznqk in baltimore

This interests me, so please feel free to ignore it if it's not for you.

Palmer and Lamdin Architects: On the Market (Again): 4207 Saint Paul Street

One year and a few updates later and they add a cool million to the asking price! This house is very near Sherwood Gardens, and was originally designed by Balrimore's premier architects. It surprises me how the prices of Homeland houses seems low. But I suppose taxes and maintenance are quite expensive.

I like the comment, just say no to barn doors.

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Ghoghogol t1_j9v27du wrote

Guilford

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nemoran t1_j9vl945 wrote

Yeah, wrong side of Loyola to be Homeland

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molotovPopsicle t1_j9v0xxo wrote

interesting, but i feel like it's incorporated too much trendy finishes into the work done on the interior. trends change and all of those severe tiles choices, over-the-top open plan, and quick-flip grey interior accents are going to date it terribly, and anyone looking in that price range is going to be critical of those choices

be very curious to see how close they come to the asking price

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bobcat7781 t1_j9va3i8 wrote

And they seem to think it's okay to just splash shower water all over the bathroom. (See pictures 41 and 46 at the Zillow listing.)

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sxswnxnw t1_j9w9bv2 wrote

The master bathroom shower tub area actually looks deep enough for no shower door or wall, but I agree the other bathrooms look to shallow for that. At least half a glass wall would probably be good. 🤷🏿‍♀️

Maybe they were going for a "European" bathroom look.

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weebilsurglace t1_j9wg6g2 wrote

I've seen the same thing in listings for much less expensive rehabs and new construction. I am starting to think it's purely for photos/staging to make the bathroom look larger and less cluttered. The assumption is that the buyer will add a shower curtain.

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sxswnxnw t1_j9wgtku wrote

If so, that's quite tacky and cheap. How much is saved by not putting up half a wall of glass anyway? If you're going to put all that money into some ugly busy af tile in a chevron pattern, why not put up a bit of glass... Smh.

Stuff like that just makes me wonder what is it I cannot see that they cheaped out on.

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sxswnxnw t1_j9w9rdv wrote

The tile work in most of the bathrooms definitely looks too trendy.

People should just go with a subway tile and call it a day. Or marble, or whatever stone slabs wealthy people would use.

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kittycatcate t1_j9z9csw wrote

Agreed the bathroom tile is gross. I think a lot of what makes it look trendy are the god awful light fixtures and staging. Surprisingly, I like the stone slab they picked for the island.

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Charming_Wulf t1_j9w3d5r wrote

With Guilford being a historic district, those renovations can get real expensive. I grew up in Homeland, which had a very aggressive neighborhood association/HOA. A wide amount of improvement work would have to get association approval and/or align with 'historic character' rules. And since it wasn't their money, the Association had no problem telling folks to do the most expensive option, 'because of neighborhood character'.

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Flyinace2000 t1_ja32scj wrote

That really only applies to exterior modifications. The Deed and Arch standards don't apply so much to interior spaces.

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Jawwaad127 t1_j9x63r4 wrote

Being from the other side of York Road where crime is high, I couldn’t believe that such nice big homes existed as a child. We would go trick or treating in this area along with I believe it was called 7 lakes and wow at such big well kept homes. It always felt weird that two sides of York Road could be completely different

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GingerMan027 OP t1_j9y1fg3 wrote

That's Baltimore for you. So many different neighborhoods, but a street can be like a border.

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DfcukinLite t1_ja1m0og wrote

I mean did the old big houses in Govans, original Northwood, the big houses on the Alameda, and how are you? Ednor gardens? Cause those neighborhoods or or the opposite side of York road and they are stately and well kept to varying degree too

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Jawwaad127 t1_ja1n6p5 wrote

Once you hit Woodbourne Ave and are going towards downtown, the left side of York Road between the Alameda and York Road is very crime ridden. There are big houses on that side but majority of them haven’t been kept up while the other side is completely different.

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DfcukinLite t1_ja1nuv1 wrote

The alameda is no more “crime ridden” then anywhere else. The point is the house are just as nice and big on both sides of old York/ York road . It’s somewhat rough east till you get closer to Loch Raven blvd. But the majority of them are is great conditions

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Jawwaad127 t1_ja1p0ua wrote

Lmao. Naw fam. They’re way two different environments. Homeland has million dollar homes while on the other side of York Road, you won’t find any between the Alameda and York Road yet are in the same zip code. 21212 The Alameda isn’t too bad as far as crime but when you get to Old York Road, there’s been many many murders in that area unfortunately.

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DfcukinLite t1_ja240hd wrote

Im not talking about “environments”. Im talking about the sizes of homes/style. No shit the environments are different that’s by design. Those are early 1900s streetcar cul de sacs for wealthy WASPs, the latter are are also streetcar suburbs, but they were blocked busted, but the opposite side is only objectively shitty till Loch Raven blvd in most cases.

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