judeiscariot t1_j8d9wl6 wrote on February 13, 2023 at 1:35 PM

Reply to comment by physicallyatherapist in What's going on in Towson? by scartonbot

NYC is rather an exception than the rule.

clebo99 t1_j8dqa52 wrote on February 13, 2023 at 3:39 PM

NYC did things that worked but some would say went over the line. Stop and frisk for example. Now, you need too much money to live in NYC (well, in Manhattan anyway) so crime is much lower. But back in the 70s-80s-early 90s it was pretty bad.

judeiscariot t1_j8dsrdc wrote on February 13, 2023 at 3:56 PM

Exactly. They went overboard with policing to get the results they got. If they hadn't then they'd be like other cities with similar population density.

The person who I responded to also used SF as an example, which went down a similar route and also costs too much, similarly.

clebo99 t1_j8dzc12 wrote on February 13, 2023 at 4:39 PM

So the ethical question that everyone should ask themselves is was it worth it? I think a lot of people would say yes. Others would say that is targeted certain groups (which may or may not be true...I honestly don't know). What I do know is that people who live in cities (and I'm one of them living here right in the middle of Baltimore City) is that I want crime to be lowered. "Asking nicely" for people not to commit crimes hasn't seemed to have worked.

physicallyatherapist t1_j8ddm9u wrote on February 13, 2023 at 2:06 PM

I just think there's probably more to it than than that. Because, again, if it was the case then NYC, Boston, San Francisco, and Miami would all have the highest crime rates

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density

judeiscariot t1_j8ddqct wrote on February 13, 2023 at 2:07 PM

That's great that you feel that way. But nobody said it's a 1-to-1 or that there isn't more to it. But population density is a good indicator of crime rate.

physicallyatherapist t1_j8djehh wrote on February 13, 2023 at 2:50 PM

My man, I'm really not trying to get into an argument on a Monday morning. My original comment was to someone I like following on here because they usually have good insight to things. I just thought it was a bad reason they gave that someone was shot because.. there were more people in an area.