Nintendoholic t1_j8roreq wrote on February 16, 2023 at 1:59 PM

Reply to comment by lolokaydudewhatever in Parklet fee: Restaurants, bars weigh future of outdoor structures by GovernorOfReddit

Have you considered that roads are a barrier to people walking places, reducing the amount of foot travel and therefore demand? You could very well see an uptick in business if people feel confident that they can get there safely and directly.

lolokaydudewhatever t1_j8rpnbl wrote on February 16, 2023 at 2:06 PM

Urban sprawl and the lack of public transportation are the reasons why people rely on roads and cars.

Even if people want to use public transportation, they can't if it DOESN'T EXIST

Nintendoholic t1_j8s2xqv wrote on February 16, 2023 at 3:39 PM

Roads and parking lots ARE urban sprawl. Get rid of them and you can fit more people and amenities!

lolokaydudewhatever t1_j8s4p5r wrote on February 16, 2023 at 3:51 PM

You dont need more people and amenities first. You need better public transportation first.

If the elimination of select roads is part of an integrated and strategic public transportstion overhaul, sure.

But "getting rid of roads" is not the first step in fixing the problem.

bmore t1_j8s76gs wrote on February 16, 2023 at 4:07 PM

Cars are the biggest barrier to improved public transit. We could have dedicated alignments for all of our high frequency buses if there wasn't parking or car traffic in the way.

lolokaydudewhatever t1_j8s8853 wrote on February 16, 2023 at 4:14 PM

And like i said if the removal of roads is part of a strategic public transportation overhaul program i support it.

But arbitrarily closing off every 4th road to cars is not the right first step

drillpublisher t1_j8w7j29 wrote on February 17, 2023 at 11:45 AM

Dude, Jesus Christ.

Cities and urban environments existed long before "public transit" and even the bicycle. We've got even better amenities now with electric scooters/bicycles. Yes, people have adapted to how cities have evolved, but they're not necessary.

Waiting to spend billions on public transit before increasing urbanization and density is a wild push.

lolokaydudewhatever t1_j8w7oo8 wrote on February 17, 2023 at 11:47 AM

Not at the population densities that exist today.

Are you seriously advocating the shutting down of 25% of baltimore's roads to cars before addressing public transportation? Youre out of your mind

HorsieJuice t1_j8s9jca wrote on February 16, 2023 at 4:23 PM

Shutting down roads won't reduce the amount of walking people would have to do since it doesn't magically uproot the stores and homes that already exist. My dentist or my grocery store are still a half mile away regardless of the number of streets I have to cross in the middle. And if you're only closing one out of every four roads, that leaves 75% that people will still have to cross. If you have trouble crossing streets, you're still going to have trouble crossing streets.