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S-Kunst t1_je481l1 wrote

I don't accept that choppers flying fast from down town to Charles Village at night (back & forth), CAN be productive. Its just like the guys on motorcycles making noise and getting attention.

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YoYoMoMa t1_je4xg3z wrote

It makes cops feel powerful and the people feel like they are being watched from on high though.

I have no idea how effective or efficient heli cops are, but "because the cops said it is" is about the last reason I will ever believe because I am not Charlie Brown with a football like so many people seem to be.

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RG_Viza t1_je5eydw wrote

One use of them is avoiding high speed vehicle chases through the city and preventing the inevitable resulting deaths from high speed chases. Tracking them from a helicopter and getting perpetrators when they stop the car and get out is safer. They can be bank robbers, shooters, whatever. They don’t just chase swimmers out of pools.

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S-Kunst t1_je798uv wrote

I accept that can be the case when they are moving slowly and during the day. When it is at night and they take only a couple minutes to do a round trip, No they cannot see anything on the ground.

I also add that nearly every week day (4:30-5pm) I sit in my tiny back yard, and at least one, generally more copters fly east to west or west to east. Taking about 20 seconds each time. From what I can see from the ground, they are not News Helicopters.

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DeliMcPickles t1_je7boli wrote

They have a light you know. Also they have FLIR. Do you think they just fly around in the dark with no idea where they are?

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YoYoMoMa t1_je5fekm wrote

I get that they have uses, but it is not a zero sum game. How many high speed chases do we have here? What are the stats about how cars drive when being chased by cops vs helis? Is establishing perimeters and road blocks safer? How much do alternatives cost vs a heli?

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RG_Viza t1_je5fqge wrote

I guy I went to high school with, Matt Hershel, died as a result of a high speed chase in Baltimore. He was walking on a sidewalk. They used to happen almost daily.

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EthanSayfo t1_je6yp5n wrote

Sorry to hear that. There was a video of a pedestrian being killed just the other day by a high-speed driver plowing into the sidewalk.

It happens a lot.

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YoYoMoMa t1_je5g268 wrote

I am sorry to hear that, but anecdotal evidence is exactly what we should not be looking for here.

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AmbitionOfPhilipJFry t1_je4mf51 wrote

Wtf, you're saying having under 15 seconds for live overhead observation for any crime in the city at any time 365/7 isn't productive?

The police are productive. It's the DAs and judges with their plea before judgment parole that detooth consequences. That and legislatures trying to allow blocks of criminals to operate at will: no pursuit of dirt bike policy means anything that can be carried in a backpack can go anywhere with impunity. They're trying to get rid of murder charges for people under 25. What age group demographic do you think commits the most murders? It's insanity.

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Scrilla_Gorilla_ t1_je4sq7m wrote

>The police are productive.

It's not even 9 and this is without a doubt the dumbest shit I'll read on the internet today.

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Dr_Midnight t1_je62aqo wrote

> They're trying to get rid of murder charges for people under 25.

"That's a nice argument, Senator. Why don't you back it up with a source?"

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AmbitionOfPhilipJFry t1_je68htn wrote

Maryland House Democrats are trying to outlaw felony murder charges for people under 25 years old, arguing that brain development isn't complete until that age.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/bill-aims-to-outlaw-felony-murder-for-people-under-25-in-maryland

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Dr_Midnight t1_je68t4d wrote

Ah, I see. That bill's dead on arrival.

Also...

> says Hartford County Sheriff Jeff Gahler.

lmao.

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YoYoMoMa t1_je4wso0 wrote

>The police are productive

LOL. And may I add, LMAO.

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winnower8 t1_je4n704 wrote

DAs, judges, and juries. Juries are citizen who want perfect CSI DNA evidence and a kingpin to be dealing on a corner with eye witness testimony. Juries or the people of Baltimore don’t want convictions.

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engin__r t1_je4xmbq wrote

So are you saying that juries want to actually make sure the person is actually guilty first?

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RoxxorMcOwnage t1_je5ed8n wrote

They won't convict because they don't trust the police who investigated the crime.

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