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MixmasterMatt t1_iswqf02 wrote

Reply to comment by Cunninghams_right in Reddit Democracy by bearjew64

How do you get to work in the winter or summer? Or when you have to bring supplies? Or when you have to commute a few dozen miles? Or when you can’t get to work covered in sweat? How do you take your kids to soccer practice? How do you get groceries? What about old people? What about people with physical disabilities? Bicycling only works under certain weather conditions for a very narrow set of people that has everything they need within 5 miles of their house and never has to transport anything bigger than a backpack. It is a recreational hobby, not a means of viable transportation for the vast majority. Bikemore hipsters want their private parade lanes so everyone can see how hip they are as they fixed gear towards the latest craft brewery. But most of us are getting fed up with the resources this city pours into your hobby while real solutions like busses, rail, subways, and even electric ride shares get ignored and the streets that 99.9999% of people use to get to work and pay taxes crumble. It’s a great way for the city to say they did something without doing anything useful though.

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Cunninghams_right t1_isyb1lz wrote

>How do you get to work in the winter or summer? Or when you have to bring supplies? Or when you have to commute a few dozen miles? Or when you can’t get to work covered in sweat? How do you take your kids to soccer practice? How do you get groceries? What about old people? What about people with physical disabilities? Bicycling only works under certain weather conditions for a very narrow set of people that has everything they need within 5 miles of their house and never has to transport anything bigger than a backpack.

I asked that you inform yourself and gave you links.

but I can give you the TL;DR: the advent of cargo ebikes and 3-wheel e-scooters remove all of the issues you've just mentioned.

> But most of us are getting fed up with the resources this city pours into

the city puts less money into bike lanes than into a single bus on a single bus route. you just don't know the cost of transit and the cost of infrastructure. if metros cost the same as bike lanes, then I would be saying we should build metros everywhere. bike lanes cost 1/60,000th the cost of a the average metro line in the US, per mile. but you don't know that because you drive a car everywhere because you have the mind of a boomer and haven't questioned whether there are ways that the city itself can improve things.

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