Renaiconna t1_iy06176 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 7:23 PM

Reply to comment by fakeguru2000 in Five houses targeted for demolition in Mount Vernon historic district by Rubysdad1975

They were founded by immigrants. They chose to stay in the spot those immigrants established and continue to give back to the city in which these congregants still have a spiritual home. Are you saying they should just be transient evangelists? They baptize people in the Trinity - they’re Trinitarian, and also don’t rebaptize other Trinitarian converts. I don’t understand your point.

fakeguru2000 t1_iy07j2u wrote on November 27, 2022 at 7:33 PM

Are they Christians? Are they followers of Christ? Do they use the Bible as a source of Knowledge? Because I listed the Christian scripture Matthew 28:19 that is attributed to Christ as a commandment to ALL Christians. I thought the Greek Orthodox Church was Christian in foundation. Christian means followers of Christ. How can any Christian, believe they don’t have an obligation to those around them. That’s the tenet of Christ himself. I didn’t say they should be traveling evangelist.

Just a correction: The Greek Orthodoxy was founded by Christ’s Apostles.

Renaiconna t1_iy0i7h9 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 8:43 PM

>How can any Christian, believe they don’t have an obligation to those around them.

So here’s why I’m confused, because you responded to my comment in which I literally listed the various ministries in the community from this one particular parish that results from such a religious obligation.

Old Testament came before the Church (of course), the Church started with Christ (rather a given, there), and the growth of the early Church coincided with writing the New Testament (see epistles), and the Church later codified all those into the Bible. Scripture and tradition (handed down starting from Christ, then thus to the apostles [see Pentacost], and so on and so forth) are considered inseparable in Orthodoxy. So yes, we follow scripture since it’s an integral part of Christianity. I’m still not seeing your point.

fakeguru2000 t1_iy0jouq wrote on November 27, 2022 at 8:53 PM

The confusion is there because you took my comment as disagreement when I agree that the church has an obligation to the community around it vs the commenter who posted this church has no obligation to the community. Apologies for the confusion. I listed the scripture to show that the church has a responsibility to the community around it. Not legally but ethically and definitely binding by Christ command.

Renaiconna t1_iy0m6a2 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 9:09 PM

Ah! Understood now, thank you for clarifying. There are a lot of misconceptions flying around elsewhere in this comment section, so I was already feeling a little defensive, but it is definitely still my fault for presuming negative intentions; please forgive me.

fakeguru2000 t1_iy0ngv5 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 9:17 PM

I understand. Don’t be defensive though. Many people are misinformed but become aware through your grounded debate. When dealing with Christian matters I add evidence text so people can’t refute especially since the Bible is the foundation of Christianity. I don’t get into doctrine debates only the words that are attributed to Christ words. Keep on teaching!