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rockybalBOHa t1_ixr4mcq wrote

This is obviously a horrible story and I feel awful for the victim and family. However, this story should not be filed under the "Baltimore is getting so much worse" BS. Patterson Park, and the area surrounding PP, is immensely safer now than it was 5 years ago, and especially 10-15 years ago. There was a time in the recent past that people would avoid the Park because of muggings, gang activity, and prostitution. It's not perfect now, but man, it's a lot better than it was. Even during the Shelia Dixon reign, when Baltimore had a hundred less murders than now, Patterson Park was a lot more dicey. Yes, random violence can and obviously does happen, but to anyone paying attention, PP is great and getting greater.

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kenoh t1_ixsbt8t wrote

Man, I'm looking at OP's history, and now I'm not convinced that they didn't find a random murder and made sure we're all talking about it here, making the city look worse than it is.

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Appropriate-Lab-5015 t1_ixrry8p wrote

During Sheila Dixon admin it was more like 150 less murders than now. And that was with a higher lethality rate (less ppl being saved at JH and Shock Trauma)

Shootings (fatal and nonfatal) are way higher now.

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rockybalBOHa t1_ixrukmk wrote

Yes. My point is that despite the increase in murders between then and now, the area around the park is markedly better now.

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Unfair-Rip9168 t1_ixrdduk wrote

Agree, surprised this happened there. A block up from the park is still pretty much the demarcation line for safe an unsafe imho. We need a transit line on fayette to improve quality of life in east Baltimore.

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Appropriate-Lab-5015 t1_ixrlrur wrote

Anyone saying this is naive. That's 05 zone up there, you're mere blocks away from ddh

In daylight it's mostly ok, but whem dusk hits, let alone late night, be careful and stay in groups

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rockybalBOHa t1_ixrufz5 wrote

Not naive. Have lived in southeast Baltimore since 2000. It's a night and day difference in and around the park.

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Appropriate-Lab-5015 t1_ixs7dbi wrote

Once you go a couple blocks north you're ddh whether you know it or not. I doubt a single yt redditor would voluntarily live (long term) more than a block of two above the park. (This doesn't count ppl who live there bc of budget limitations)

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rockybalBOHa t1_ixsztl1 wrote

Yes, but even the areas north of the park are better than they were. Gentrification has pushed north.

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wickd_science t1_ixrir07 wrote

It's been that way since roughly 2009 when I first moved to the city. It was the same when I left in 2019. I'm not even the least bit surprised, there's been several senseless murders of non-gang residents over that period of time there and elsewhere. Do not let the niceness of the day fool you, you still need to look over your shoulder all the time in that city. Glad I'm gone.

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