Submitted by chrisbeall t3_z4utmj in baltimore
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onehalflightspeed t1_ixt2fhc wrote
National independence has been England's finest export for over two centuries
rental_car_fast t1_ixtfxal wrote
Most recently exported themselves out of Europe
gaytee t1_ixtaxn0 wrote
Pretty sure independence from England is celebrated nearly every day or every few days.
judeiscariot t1_ixug5iq wrote
That's more than once a week, which is a lot, yeah.
I mean, it's 5 every 4 weeks. Nobody should have that many independence days against them.
HuskyCriminologist t1_ixwa5h7 wrote
Statistically, Independence from Britain is celebrated once every 5.6 days.
Major-Tooth t1_ixujot4 wrote
The sun never sets on independence from England
msleepd t1_ixt005b wrote
I mean France’s talks about the blood of the impure watering their farms so I think ours is kinda mild.
LaPieCurieuse t1_ixtgti0 wrote
Yeah, it's pretty brutal. The first verse and refrain of the French national anthem translated into English:
"Arise, children of the Fatherland Our day of glory has arrived Against us the bloody flag of tyranny is raised; the bloody flag is raised. Do you hear, in the countryside The roar of those ferocious soldiers? They’re coming right into your arms To cut the throats of your sons, your comrades!
To arms, citizens! Form your battalions Let’s march, let’s march That their impure blood Should water our fields."
FirstTimeWang t1_ixuaup3 wrote
Yowza
SelfOk1681 t1_ixuo1no wrote
That’s the French anthem? Huh who would’ve guessed
kamace11 t1_ixtn8oz wrote
Yeah and I want to say both Romania and Vietnam have almost hilariously violent ones. US is def top half but it's far from craziest.
Romanian: "Priests, lead with your crucifixes, for our army is Christian, The motto is Liberty and its goal is holy, Better to die in battle, in full glory, Than to once again be slaves upon our ancient ground!"
And Vietnamese: "Our flag, which is dyed with the blood of victory, carries the soul of the nation (…). The path to glory is paved with enemy corpses. (…) For so long, we have contained our hatred! Let us be ready for all the sacrifices so that our life is radiant."
puptrait t1_ixtv4co wrote
To be fair, the Vietnamese aren't exactly exaggerating. Besides Canada, what other country can say they beat both the USA and France in separate ground wars?
old_at_heart t1_ixt4gid wrote
Ha ha. But I think it's more like "we will prevail in an uncertain and often hostile world".
NO, that's not right: the Star Spangled Banner begins and ends on question: did we prevail? Will we prevail in an uncertain and often hostile world?
That's what's vital to the U.S. national anthem. It's a riveting message amidst all the howdy doody "golly it's a nice country and everything is just swell here" type anthems out there, which is also the gist of the proposed hopelessly bland replacements for the Star Spangled Banner.
Will we make it? We just never know for sure. But, damn, with gallantly streaming colors, we'll put up a hell of an effort.
JohnBarleyCorn2 t1_ixuc0pz wrote
this is an insightful comment and i agree with you whole heartedly. <3 neighbor!
gettinhyphy t1_ixtlvtj wrote
I mean Kazakhstan anthem accuses other countries of being run by little girls and claims all other countries have inferior potassium.
kuroiarashi t1_ixujrc2 wrote
Nothing but facts, very nice!
WillieKeeler96 t1_ixszo5p wrote
“Our flag will wave forever” is pretty much the whole point of our anthem
SpareCartographer402 t1_ixufb9n wrote
"Will our flag wave forever?" Is the actual message, it's not a certainty it's a reminder that our flag only lasts as long as the spirit in our heart (seriously it is)
saltwaterterrapin t1_ixt5ee1 wrote
The US anthem isn’t that bad, I feel like. Maryland’s is all “Go John Wilkes Booth!” though :/
thatgeekinit t1_ixt71f1 wrote
Ha yeah, Maryland My Maryland is a protest song, which would be cool except it is protesting the Lincoln administration.
dent_de_lion t1_ixtohuz wrote
Huh. TIL.
megalomike t1_ixu9lvd wrote
Former state song. Repealed last year.
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BetterCallLoblaw t1_ixumq6o wrote
It’s the ultimate, “hey bro, remember that time we fought in the third grade?” “You kicked my ass, then I kicked your ass, and now we’re BFFs.”
hamsterstyle609 t1_ixv51u2 wrote
Yeah it wouldn’t be a stretch at all to say the War of 1812 was, at best, a pyrrhic victory for us, in the sense that we survived at all. The British thoroughly beat our asses and considering that’s what the anthem was written, it might not carry the connotations of defeat to them.
judeiscariot t1_ixugb67 wrote
They're so vain.
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OneFootTitan t1_ixtgw2w wrote
This guy doesn’t seem to have heard many anthems. France, Mexico, Italy, Cuba, Russia, etc. All speak of war, many specifically about war against another country
JHBaltimore t1_ixtbo14 wrote
He pitches for the orioles, so of course he is going to mention Baltimore.
dishonourableaccount t1_ixvr2hs wrote
I’m still miffed that 2026 World Cup games won’t be played in Baltimore anymore, solely because I want to see how commentators explain us shouting “O” during the anthem.
good_fox_bad_wolf t1_ixvxlu6 wrote
Anytime I'm in Maryland and people don't shout the O I'm very disappointed.
BlackieStJames t1_ixw467y wrote
One of my kids got in BIG trouble in a middle school assembly for doing that. I guess none of the other kids had parents that took them to baseball games, so his exuberance was noted.
dishonourableaccount t1_ixw67db wrote
I grew up in Silver Spring, it’s not a thing there. Interesting how different MD culture is just 2 counties away.
Spaghetti-Bender t1_ixu9mwm wrote
It was a much darker anthem before being watered down.
https://www.theonion.com/restoration-of-star-spangled-banner-uncovers-horrifying-1819594927
Risque_Terrorist t1_ixvlc9w wrote
overall i really disliked my time in america but living in baltimore was a really nice experience. if there's any america pride there it's all for baltimore love that city so much love all you guys
SoulStoneTChalla t1_ixv4u5d wrote
He should check out the French anthem. That goes hard.
Ocean2731 t1_ixvtzba wrote
Denmark has a good one. They point out to what I can only assume is the other Scandinavian countries that they can actually grow plants in their country and have a nice beach. They also remind the world that they used to be rather violent Vikings. Oh, they point out that their women are gorgeous.
Pure trolling.
2crowncar t1_ixw4ugh wrote
Legend of the Baltimore 1812 Clipper, Chassuer.
>>Chasseur, under Captain William Wade's command, evaded the 1812 British blockade and cruised the West Indies from July until the Christmas of 1813, harassing the British merchant fleet.
>>List of some of the prizes that Chasseur captured during the War of 1812:
>>1. Adventure, ship, divested off cargo, sent to Charleston, South Carolina, but recaptured there 2. Alert, brig, divested and burned 3. American, schooner, divested and burned 4. Ann Maria, schooner, divested and burned 5. Britannia, brig, sent to Beaufort Carlebury, ship, valued at $50,000, ordered in 7. Christianna of Scotland, sloop 8. Commerce, brig, sent to Charleston, South Carolina 9. Eclipse, brig, bound to Liverpool from Buenos Aires, captured and sent it to New York.[8] 10. Favorite, sloop, divested and burned 11. Joanna of Malta, divested and burned 12. Harmony, brig, converted into a cartel 13. Martha, sloop, converted into a cartel 14. Marquis Cornwallis, brig, converted into a cartel 15. Melpomene, brig, six guns, sent to Newport 16. Miranda, schooner, divested and burned 17. Prudence, brig, converted into a cartel 18.HMS St. Lawrence, schooner, see above
New captain of Chassuer has huge cajones:
>>In July 1814, Captain Thomas Boyle took command of Chasseur. He sailed across the Atlantic ocean and harassed British merchant shipping from the coasts of Portugal and Spain to the English and Irish channels.
>>Most famously, while cruising the English channel, Boyle had proclaimed a blockade on the entire United Kingdom to show the absurdity of "paper blockades". Boyle's proclamation was posted in Lloyd's Coffee House in London.
Wikipedia “1812 Clipper” Chassuer
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niversally t1_ixsxncu wrote
Limey cunts!
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bmore t1_ixulrta wrote
We lost all credibility when the National Park Service flew the Fort McHenry flag at half mast for the death of the queen. I mean what.
wbruce098 t1_ixvbxrb wrote
Our flag was put at half mast for the death of the leader of a BUNCH of America’s closest allies, a leader who had stuck with us for 70 years. Given that 1812 was 210 years ago, and we’ve fought on the same side for well over a century now, I think we’ve gotten over the original enmity and just might be close friends.
It’s a lovely way to honor someone of that status and importance to our national goals, even if they’re not American.
bmore t1_ixvr3jy wrote
Sure, do it everywhere but McHenry.
dudical_dude t1_ixtaga2 wrote
Personally I’d prefer a national anthem without the rockets red glare and bombs bursting in air but I guess that does describe this nations m.o. quite accurately.
bmore t1_ixulzxg wrote
Are you referring to the British, given it was their bombs and rockets attacking a city?
dudical_dude t1_ixumrzz wrote
I don't care which side it was from. I'd prefer the national anthem not have war references.
bmoreboy410 t1_ixsyhda wrote
I don’t care if it was referring to Baltimore. Fuck the national anthem.
hoi4kaiserreichfanbo t1_ixszwjs wrote
Besides being awful to sing it’s a fine national anthem, why don’t you like it?
thatgeekinit t1_ixt897o wrote
Possible criticism: The song is pretty martial for an anthem sung at international sporting events. Though it is pretty similar to the Polish and Ukrainian anthems in that way. A lot of anthems are based on 19th century nationalistic poems with similar themes.
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bmoreboy410 t1_ixt978u wrote
It has racist lyrics threatening slaves so I can’t support it.
logaboga t1_ixta7mu wrote
It doesn’t at all?
Oh, say, can you see By the dawn's early light What so proudly we hail'd At the twilight's last gleaming? Whose broad stripes and bright stars Through the perilous fight O'er the ramparts we watch'd Were so gallantly streaming? And the rocket's red glare The bombs bursting in air Gave proof through the night That our flag was still there O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free And the home of the brave?
Where are the lines threatening slaves?
bmoreboy410 t1_ixtc49c wrote
That is just the first of four verses.
From the third verse:
No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave
logaboga t1_ixvipjd wrote
Maybe that’s why it’s not included lol, no rendition of that song includes the full verses
judeiscariot t1_ixugfni wrote
It pays to read up to see that the whole thing is much longer and reaaaaally fucking awful.
wbruce098 t1_ixvcekj wrote
Maybe there’s a reason we don’t sing those verses anymore. We also don’t count slaves as 3/5 of a person for the census anymore. Made mistakes, fixed some of them. I guess that’s progress.
brouhaha13 t1_ixszum2 wrote
What are your qualms? I think it's just fine, but I didn't know people had such strong opinions.
Original_Intention t1_ixtb9kp wrote
Apparently there is a verse that promotes slavery. I hadn't heard of it until I just googled it now. I'm assuming that is what the commenter is alluding to?
bmoreboy410 t1_ixt97rq wrote
It has racist lyrics threatening slaves so I can’t support it.
Angdrambor t1_ixzky8h wrote
What song would you prefer to support as a national anthem?
Or are you only capable of negative opinions?
brouhaha13 t1_ixta7u6 wrote
I don't disbelieve you, but can you explain which lyrics?
bmoreboy410 t1_ixtcah8 wrote
From the third verse:
No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave
brouhaha13 t1_ixtjm9b wrote
So not the anthem. The poem?
tansreer t1_ixuba7y wrote
You're trying to split hairs. Where are you finding that distinction encoded into the law that declares the Star Spangled Banner the anthem?
I don't see anything that says "just the first verse, we don't like the verse about killing runaway slaves that joined the British so they could be free."
bmore t1_ixun762 wrote
The verse is not wrong in a retconned sense that Black Loyalists were doomed, for the British/Canadians were happy to abandon them in corners of Nova Scotia to starve and fend off racist whites, but yes the verse is bad and while I enjoy this country's anthem I do wish we'd formally codify it as the first part alone.
bmoreboy410 t1_ixuq8x2 wrote
Its not even about whether it was true or not. But I think that you are wrong.
The final provocation was that men who escaped their bonds of slavery were welcome to join the British Corps of Colonial Marines in exchange for land after their service. As many as 4,000 people, mostly from Virginia and Maryland, escaped.
Whether manipulation or not, the British kept their word to Colonial Marines after the war, refusing the United States’ demand that they be returned and providing them land in Trinidad and Tobago to resettle with their families. Their descendants, called “Merikins,” still live there today.
bmore t1_ixurgye wrote
I guess this is splitting hairs a bit too, fair. They definitely did a bit better on round 2 vs the 1770s resettlements I was referencing.
Angdrambor t1_ixt02kl wrote
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mknoll1 t1_ixsyo2f wrote
I feel like Independence Day in most countries is because the British got kicked out.