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Bun_Bunz t1_ix8dv4b wrote

Reply to comment by rockybalBOHa in City reaches 300th homicide for 8th year in a row by Maxcactus

I'm sorry but where the hell do you expect the poor, displaced people to go when you kick them out of their neighborhoods???? They don't magically make more money and can afford these newly built gentrified areas.

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VirginBarryGaming t1_ix8fpj6 wrote

They move into the cheaper surrounding areas - there’s been an ongoing exodus from baltimore city to county of the lower income earners because of cheaper conditions

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Appropriate-Lab-5015 t1_ix9eq1s wrote

Baltimore County poverty rate and Title I schools is approaching what City has now.

The county also has a high overall enrollment and more black students then city schools.

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VirginBarryGaming t1_ix9iu1d wrote

Sources on the poverty?

1/5 of baltimore city resident are in poverty, compared to baltimore county which is less than 1/10, less than half the poverty rate

Sources:

City: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/baltimorecitymaryland

County: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/baltimorecountymaryland

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codyvir t1_ix8uy67 wrote

Hot take: Gentrification creates jobs and opportunity. In areas that are gentrifying or redeveloping there are increased opportunities for low and moderate-skill workers in the service industry and trades, and opportunities for entrepreneurship. An increased tax-base means additional municipal employment opportunities. Besides, population pressure isn't the problem in Baltimore - there's plenty of space for everyone who lives here, plus quite a few more. The problem is an opportunity and employment deficit.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_ix9lp1v wrote

Exactly. I was on the Amtrak yesterday and every time I see entire neighborhoods of Baltimore, literally tens of square miles, of abandoned row homes and single family homes collapsing into themselves. There is NO population pressure, so “gentrification”, which is a bad word, in reality, is all the things you said, and more. Revitalization of an area improves opportunities for all and expands tax base.

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iamthesam2 t1_ix8k8ij wrote

that’s easy… they go somewhere cheaper.

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diopsideINcalcite t1_ixa4p9r wrote

I saw this happen as Remington gentrified. I lived there for a number of years and there were a lot families that couldn’t afford the rising property taxes as their home values increased. Often times they had to sell houses they didn’t want to sell and leave a neighborhood they didn’t want to leave. It was even worse if you were a longtime renter. Landlords sold a lot of the homes for development or redevelopment.

You can’t argue with the result though, as Remington did a 180. Whether or not it was worth it probably depends on whether you lost your house or benefited from the new development. Definitely pros and cons for each side of it.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_ix9lf32 wrote

>they don’t magically make more money

Firstly, they often do, because new industry and tax base raises wages.

>can’t afford newly built gentrified areas

Sometimes. Sometimes they can. Sometimes the cycle persists where the “victim” is able to benefit from the positive change in wages and housing availability that was never present before.

Gentrification is code for NIMBY.

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