YouAreADadJoke t1_ix8owss wrote
Reply to comment by Bonzi777 in City reaches 300th homicide for 8th year in a row by Maxcactus
The most successful groups in this country(Asians, Indians, Nigerians, etc) all have strong family ties and a strong cultural emphasis on education and hardwork.
Bonzi777 t1_ix8pt9v wrote
Okay?
YouAreADadJoke t1_ix9whdj wrote
The neighborhoods that produce the people doing the murders have exactly the opposite.
YoYoMoMa t1_ixcxjz2 wrote
What is the point? You think they are born this way, or is something in our culture making them that way? And if so, what is your plan to do something about it?
bmorealpha t1_ixd5qc0 wrote
His point is that everyone gave solutions but no one mentioned the best solution. The solution is strong families. Strong families make stronger communities. The politicians need to promote laws that will give incentives to create strong families. The politicians are busy promoting laws like legalizing drugs that definitely don't promote strong families. I dont know what those laws are but there is a reason that foreigners are highly successful in America and it starts with families.
YoYoMoMa t1_ixd6fax wrote
>The politicians need to promote laws that will give incentives to create strong families
Such as?
And I would argue that split families are a symptom, not the cause. Same thing that happened to Korean families living in Japan during the occupation. When you redline and over police and restrict opportunities to a community the families often fall apart.
And they have shown that a "broken" black familyin the US growing up in a place with good opportunities and outcomes have the same success rate as kids of white families with similar situations.
So focusing on the family is usually just a way of ignoring underinvestment and lack of opportunity and demonizing black people.
bmorealpha t1_ixdf7ri wrote
My comment stated i dont have the incentive laws but i imagine some sort of tax break or homeownership program for married families only. U mention ignoring and demonizing or underinvesting in black people but i never said anything related to it. In fact the incentives would help to invest in the black community. The problem is a family and cultural problem that promotes self destructive behavior. Split families are a symptom of destructive culture and actions promoted by governments and corps. But this is a local solution for local govt so i wont address that.
YouAreADadJoke t1_ixenejb wrote
> And they have shown that a "broken" black familyin the US growing up in a place with good opportunities and outcomes have the same success rate as kids of white families with similar situations.
Can you provide citations for this?
>So focusing on the family is usually just a way of ignoring underinvestment and lack of opportunity and demonizing black people.
There are black groups that do very well(Nigerians). The problem is with the culture in certain neighborhoods that have an extreme single mother household problem and government dependency problem.
YoYoMoMa t1_ixeua81 wrote
You are proving my point. Nigerian people do not grow up in the neighborhoods we are talking about.
YouAreADadJoke t1_ixf4biz wrote
>And they have shown that a "broken" black familyin the US growing up in a place with good opportunities and outcomes have the same success rate as kids of white families with similar situations.
Can you provide citations for this?
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