Another stellar ad from VisitBaltimore. Just a reminder that the CEO makes $400K a year.Dogsinabathtub t1_iy826xv wrote
That’s not even the beer they make at that brewery.
They make the Guinness blonde there
Brendan_f18 t1_iy8h42p wrote
They most definitely brew stouts at that brewery. Check out the Over the Moon Milk Stout, just to name one. Did you really think they only brew one beer at that entire facility?
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy8j5i5 wrote
I’m with dogsinabathtub on this one. Anyone who would be visiting Baltimore isn’t going to know about obscure beers only available at that brewery, especially when the image is clearly their flagship stout that’s only brewed in Ireland
christwin t1_iy8rl35 wrote
Anyone visiting Baltimore might not know which specific "obscure" beers are only available at the brewery, but I would think that many people visiting the brewery would know that more than just the Blonde is brewed and available there, just like any other brewery you would visit in the country lol. How does the fact that they brew lesser known "obscure" beers negate the fact that they brew much more than just the Blonde in Baltimore, including a variety of stouts (like the one in the image)?
Brendan_f18 t1_iy8t7o4 wrote
People are so eager to hate on a local place just because it doesn't meet their criteria of being worthy of promotion. The facts just fly out the window.
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy9omt3 wrote
Oh I forgot that Guinness open gate made this themselves? Or maybe u can’t read very well hmmm which is it
The criticism is of the ad company, not the brewery
Brendan_f18 t1_iy9qkib wrote
I'm just saying that, of all the criticisms you could make, this one is pretty weak. They brew stouts, even sometimes nitro stouts at the Baltimore location, and the original comment mentioned "That’s not even the beer they make at that brewery. They make the Guinness blonde there". The ad is terrible, but this criticism is a reach. No need to call the entirety of their taplist aside from the blond and the imports "obscure".
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy8w8w9 wrote
They specifically DON’T brew that beer there… pick any of the ones that they do instead
christwin t1_iy8wtgc wrote
A nitro stout? There's a Baltimore nitro stout on tap there right now lmao
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy93bbj wrote
The stout that u are claiming that it is, isn’t nitro. Now claiming it might be a different stout… yeah ok sure. If I put a pale yellow glass of beer with BUDWEISER on the glass, are ppl going to think it’s Budweiser or one of their far less popular beers? The Guinness open gate brewery is great to visit but ur argument is idiotic
christwin t1_iy93yc2 wrote
The "Nitro Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout" isn't a nitro? You should let them know so they can correct their taplists ASAP! I would highly recommend it, though. Seemed like a nitro to me!
Also, if they poured me that beer and put it in a Guinness glass, it would still be a Guinness because it's a Guinness beer brewed at the Baltimore Guinness Brewery. What an absolutely bizarre hill to die on.
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy9n7oc wrote
I already pointed out that u switched to a different beer when proved wrong.
Either way, nobody is going to look at a glass of dark nitro beer that says Guinness on the side that looks exactly like Guinness draught and think “oh that must not be their flagship nitro stout that’s ubiquitous worldwide”. They don’t even have nitro stouts on all the time at Open Gate so why not pick something they do more often like the wit or maybe the blonde that they specifically built that entire brewery for
It’s clearly a lazy ad by a lazy company who put almost no thought into it, but here u are dying on some nonsensical hill defending their laziness. U aren’t even defending Open Gate u are defending the losers at visit Baltimore who suck at their jobs lol. Such an idiot
christwin t1_iy9nixq wrote
A different beer? I didn't mention another beer lol. When I said "Baltimore nitro stout" I was referring to one that was produced in Baltimore, not Dublin.
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy9ovmu wrote
If u were less dumb u would see that my comment that u originally responded to was about “over the moon” milk stout and then u jumped in talking about a different beer
christwin t1_iy9qomo wrote
haha that wasn't me though! How was I proved wrong when I never said that? You wanted to talk about nitro stouts and I saw that they literally have their own nitro stout on tap RIGHT NOW lmao.
My initial comment wasn't even defending the ad at all. Just defending the fact that the brewery is worth visiting because they put out more than just the Blonde, including stouts (and even nitro stouts!) that the first comment referred to. It's definitely a lazy ad, but they're highlighting a local brewery by displaying a familiar type of beer that the brewery typically puts out. This has already been explained to you by another commenter, so I won't rehash it anymore than that. Your initial agreement with the fact that "That’s not even the beer they make at that brewery. They make the Guinness blonde there" is factually incorrect. Maybe "If u were less dumb" that would have sunk in by now.
Brendan_f18 t1_iy9rls6 wrote
Maybe you mixed up two commenters, but I never claimed that the picture WAS the Over the Moon Milk Stout, for the record. Nobody is claiming to know EXACTLY which stout is in the photo except for you.
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy9s57a wrote
It’s a nitro stout in the picture. U mentioned a stout that isn’t nitro. Why even mention that at all if not talking about the photo which is what we are talking about? Great point lol
Brendan_f18 t1_iy9tenf wrote
Why not go back and read the thread yourself instead of making me re-explain. I was simply telling him that it's not true that the brewery only makes the blonde.
He said "That’s not even the beer they make at that brewery." when in fact they've made stouts including nitro stouts in the past (Nitro Coffee Stout and Nitro Vanilla Mocha Stout).
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iya40cs wrote
Open Gate was specifically opened to produce blonde so it’s a stupid point especially since the pic looks exactly like their most famous beer which isn’t made there
That commenter never said that open gate ONLY makes Guinness blonde, u misunderstood them
Brendan_f18 t1_iya4ws3 wrote
Nobody is arguing over why the Open Gate brewery was opened and whether it was specifically for the blond or not, so that's irrelevant. I also never argued that the photo isn't likely the nitro stout brewed in Ireland, so I don't know why you keep repeating that. I commented initially to claim that they brew far more than just the blond, including stouts.
Brendan_f18 t1_iy8k0tg wrote
What?! How can you tell that it's clearly their flagship stout? The milk stout looks identical in the glass. Dogsinabathtub stated that the beer they make at that brewery is the Guinness blonde, and I said that, factually, they make many other beers including stouts at that brewery. As a fan of many of the local Baltimore breweries and craft beer in general, it's commonly known that many of their new stouts that are widely distributed are brewed in their Baltimore County facility. They're not "obscure" in any way.
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy8mm37 wrote
That’s very obviously not a nitro head like the visitbaltimore picture shows
Quick check on beer advocate shows the milk stout with 125 ratings and Guinness stout with 6,164 ratings (also the milk stout is discontinued) so yeah I would call having 2% of the ratings as relatively obscure
Brendan_f18 t1_iy8nduk wrote
The point stands, they make more than just the blonde at that brewery location, and many of the beers they brew are stouts. If you want to fault Visit Baltimore for accidentally posting a nitro rather than a standard stout (although both are served at the location) go ahead, but seems nit-picky to me. Maybe they meant to post the Bourbon Barrel Aged Imperial Stout, or the Gingerbread Spiced Stout, or the Mint Chocolate Stout.
Of course the Guinness Stout is going to have more ratings, it's sold all over the world and has been around for hundreds of years. I don't see your point. By your metrics, many beers brewed in Baltimore are "obscure" when you compare them to Bud Light.
You can also go to the brewery to have a Guinness stout brewed in Ireland, go on a tour of the Baltimore brewery that has historical information about the brewery, and maybe try a brew from the newer location while you're there. I vastly prefer going to many of the breweries within walking distance of me, but I think Guinness is also a great time.
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_iy8wiy3 wrote
Maybe instead of putting Bud Light on their advertisements they should be putting something far less popular and less known like Busch Ice
christwin t1_iy8skrj wrote
I would definitely recommend learning more about the Guinness Brewery and their female head brewer! I just went this past weekend and there were a ton of different delicious beers on tap. Worth a visit for sure.
https://vinepair.com/articles/hollie-stephenson-guinness/
inevitabledecibel t1_iya45o7 wrote
Hollie hasn't worked there in over a year, last I heard she's distilling on the west coast now.
Dogsinabathtub t1_iy8ty6f wrote
I’ve been there. I like it a lot. I know they do stouts but their flagship is the Baltimore blonde.
It’s just funny to me that someone clearly just google imaged “Guinness” and picked the first thing they saw for this graphic.
gaytee t1_iy8xgxx wrote
Yes, because it’s a Guinness factory, brewery, etc. regardless of what they make, people will know a pint of Guinness across the world when you see it. Any blonde looks the same.
Dogsinabathtub t1_iy8ypky wrote
They have their own unique branding for the Baltimore blonde
gaytee t1_iy8zdkf wrote
And nobody knows what it is either way. That’s the point. This is bad marketing regardless, but using the OG iconic pint of Guinness to market the Guinness brewery is correct. Marketing is about reaching people with things they connect with.
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