Submitted by locker1313 t3_z8w3a0 in baltimore
LurkerOrHydralisk t1_iydu983 wrote
Reply to comment by Giggysword01 in Baltimore police make arrests after ride-share passengers robbed by locker1313
Baltimore’s had a bad rap for a while, but I’ve never seen crime like this until this year. Idk what’s going on but it is not usually like this.
fnkdrspok t1_iye0dst wrote
Yeah, crime has always been an issue but people have become more brazen with their disreputable actions towards other people. Is lacking consequences an issue?
jabbadarth t1_iye2myi wrote
Possibly, also likely desperation with higher cost of living and a lack of jobs. Not to say that these criminals would immediately jump on an hourly job but long term the only solution is opportunity and for many in Baltimore that's just not something on their radar.
bookoocash t1_iye35tz wrote
Getting their kicks before Bates comes in next week and starts bringing down the hammer, perhaps?
At least I hope that’s what he does. Expectations very low, but hoping to be surprised.
LurkerOrHydralisk t1_iye4np7 wrote
Yeah, I doubt that teenagers with guns are really that politically aware as a whole, much less basing their violent crimes on who is likely to be elected
z3mcs t1_iye5yyv wrote
I try to point people to the story of the guys that robbed a "cop bar" type restaurant in like 2017. Most of the stuff you see around Baltimore isn't like some well thought out mission impossible. People are impulsive and/or desperate. And you'll get a person or a small group of people that commit the same crimes with the same m.o. like 4 times in a row in a span of 24 hours. For the most part they're not like slipping in and out of the shadows between police shifts or calculating the hours until a new states attorney takes office.
LurkerOrHydralisk t1_iyechap wrote
Yep. That’s how they all get caught. They repeat the same crime over and over again in a very short period in the same location/area.
bookoocash t1_iyedp0u wrote
Lol yeah I was joking for the most part, outside of my cautious, weak optimism for Bates.
Real talk, I do agree that the crime has gotten pretty alarming as of late. Not sure exactly what’s happening but I’m hoping either we get a handle on it or it subsides on its own.
LurkerOrHydralisk t1_iyeepuf wrote
Yeah. Wouldn’t count on it subsiding without the city doing anything.
A recession is here, whether it’s official or not. The working class never fully recovered from 2008, and is already feeling terrible effects of inflation.
People are desperate, and desperate people do desperate things.
christwin t1_iye63q1 wrote
I first read it that way, too, but I think the commenter you're replying to was only saying that he hopes that they're only attempting to get away with these crimes until we reach a point where the crimes will be punished adequately to limit them. Not that they're trying to get away with them because they're currently aware of the transition to a new state's attorney.
I'm also not confident that much will be done to limit the amount of crime that's being committed by teens as young as 13, it seems, in a more immediate way.
LurkerOrHydralisk t1_iyec8zn wrote
There’s only so much that can be done about that without creating a working social safety net, investing in education and healthcare, etc.
christwin t1_iyedfk1 wrote
I definitely agree. As a homeowner in the city, I really hope that we're able to work on that while also finding a way to reduce the crime in the short-term. I want the city to be more equitable all-around, but I don't want the progress that is made to take so long that crime drives many more families out first.
LurkerOrHydralisk t1_iyef1g9 wrote
The city has been propping itself up for a long time. It was always going to get worse before it got better. Continual focus on short term solutions and greater police funding has only made this worse.
We need to do something about the actual problems, not just tough on crime short term solutions. That sort of technique isn’t going to keep teenagers from doing what they do.
christwin t1_iyek46i wrote
That makes sense. Hopefully a governor who might prioritize the city's concerns more than Hogan and a States Attorney who seems to have a good head on his shoulders can move things in the right direction.
Cheomesh t1_iyf1klz wrote
>Getting their kicks before Bates comes in next week and starts bringing down the hammer, perhaps?
What's this?
bookoocash t1_iyf261d wrote
My post was mostly jokes, but Ivan Bates, our incoming SA, is likely to be even remotely more aggressive in prosecuting crimes than the incumbent, Marilyn Mosby.
Cheomesh t1_iyf6nwk wrote
Ah, bummer. For a moment there I had hope.
bookoocash t1_iyf8ep1 wrote
There is hope with him! There’s likely to be some iota of improvement, which, hey, is better than nothing. My expectations are low, but I do believe there is a possibility for them to be exceeded.
Giggysword01 t1_iyehtz9 wrote
Who is bates?
bookoocash t1_iyekbv7 wrote
Ivan Bates. New SA about to take over Marilyn Mosby’s job. He’s pledged to be tougher on crime but he’s also done both prosecution and defense so I’m optimistic that he understands in certain cases rehabilitation might be the more appropriate approach too. Basically his approach seems way more nuanced than Mosby’s which was basically let all low level crime slide for sake of not locking up minorities, while it also doesn’t seem like he’s gonna go gung ho lock people up for the rest of their lives for some drugs either.
Giggysword01 t1_iyeq52m wrote
Interesting, that brings up similarities to the former DA of San Francisco, Chesa Boudin in my mind.
sit_down_man t1_iyecgtq wrote
I mean the murder rate is in line with that of the last several years. Still sad and way too high but not really an anomaly or increase.
I also can’t seem to find anything saying violent crime is up this year versus years previous.
LurkerOrHydralisk t1_iyefeh7 wrote
There have been a lot of carjackings in Hampden. Used to be every year or two there’d be a gang out doing carjackings or muggings for a weekend, but this year it has just kept going and going.
This week they were carjacking Uber drivers to steal the car, pick up the next passenger, and rob them.
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