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megalomike t1_iykl4f5 wrote

Mobsy is a horse's ass but he also has had virtually zero impact on city governance. Its time to coalesce around a better candidate. Of course, who is that. Leon Pinkett was a good option but flopped. Shannon Snead is on two straight losing campaigns. Not sure any freshmen have the suction, maybe Ramos. Costello has $$ but is the wrong color. Burnett is too fringe. Bullock maybe if he can nut up and stop playing nice.

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buckeyebaby OP t1_iykx6nj wrote

Someone needs to run on the sole promise they’ll hire an external auditor to figure out where all the city’s money is going and purge any employees committing fraud. If you want to see something infuriating, please look up the salaries for everyone from Baltimore city public schools in 2021. A janitor was being paid almost $100K. The “CEO” of Baltimore city schools makes like $450K despite graduation rates being abysmal. Some of these schools don’t have heat or AC!

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bmore t1_iykz4jj wrote

Why is it infuriating that we pay the schools CEO a reasonable if not uncompetitive salary for a position of extraordinary challenge and responsibility? Do you think we'll attract stronger talent if we pay that position less?

We have audits and we have an independent OIG. I swear to god the folks that complain the most about our fucked government know the least about it.

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buckeyebaby OP t1_iyl544k wrote

It was nationally reported on last year that over 65% of the kids in Baltimore city public schools were failing at least one class. Some of these schools don’t have heat. How can you justify paying a CEO who hasn’t improved schools during her tenure almost half a million dollars while simultaneously saying we have no money to get heat in the schools? And that 65% figure isn’t from Fox or sinclair, that was on CNN and they reported it in WaPo. I’d be happy to pay the school CEO that much if she had results to prove she was worth the money.

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bmore t1_iyl6610 wrote

>Do you think we'll attract stronger talent if we pay that position less?

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buckeyebaby OP t1_iyl6t55 wrote

Well currently we're not even trying to attract talent, we're just paying someone who isn't delivering. I definitely don't think we attract the right talent by having a reputation of not holding people accountable for their job performance.

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gmp012 t1_iylbfse wrote

You hit it spot on.

The entire Baltimoron government is filled with a bunch of incompetents who could care less. Though it's hard to find talent in a city with this kind of reputation.

It's been this way for a while. It's just a big power grab and the state and city constantly butt heads. they'd rather see their own city burn instead of make things better. So long as they are in charge. #conspiracy

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bmore t1_iymcg2g wrote

Ok but I'm curious:

>Do you think we'll attract stronger talent if we pay that position less?

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mrdank t1_iymrix7 wrote

Have we not been increasing the salary of the position in the hopes of attracting stronger talent this whole time? Maybe it's time to try something other than throwing money at a problem? Especially when we're essentially lighting the money on fire at this point.

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bmore t1_iynafcr wrote

So you think we'll attract stronger talent if we pay less for the position?

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damagecontrolparty t1_iynpvla wrote

You'd attract stronger talent if it was a more attractive place for people to work. You have to look at factors other than money, otherwise you'll just get people who show up and do the bare minimum for a couple of years.

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bmore t1_iynqbus wrote

Money is a pretty major factor in a on call 24/7 executive role overseeing a massive budget.

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gmp012 t1_iylal7x wrote

I think your asking the wrong questions bud and not exactly being open to the true dialogue here.

The moot points your making seem to be part of the issue.

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bmore t1_iymclai wrote

The true dialogue? Is this some weird code word? I asked a simple question that you both seem a bit hesitant to answer.

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gmp012 t1_iymz4hd wrote

>The
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>true dialogue
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>? Is this some weird code word?

Sure why, good luck interpreting it...

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Inevitable_Sherbet42 t1_iympnow wrote

>Why is it infuriating that we pay the schools CEO

Because the CEO of said school system overlooked a system so blatantly mismanaged they graduated multiple classes that shouldn't have been, year after year?

Because they're the CEO of a system that, for some reason, has an insanely top heavy teacher-administrator ratio?

How about the fact the Baltimore City CEOs haven't done a good job for a couple decades. Is that good enough of a reason?

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bmore t1_iynajcm wrote

Do you think we'll attract stronger talent if we pay that position less?

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Inevitable_Sherbet42 t1_iyncq2a wrote

I'd argue we need to distribute the money to actually fixing the school buildings and hiring more teachers first, before we can even begin thinking about paying administrators at the same rate or more.

Do you think the administrators have earned their pay? I don't.

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bmore t1_iyndmq7 wrote

I am not talking about the performance of an individual. You keep talking about if they have earned their pay. I would argue they in fact have not. But you seem to think getting rid of them and offering to pay a new person less is something that will improve our ability to hire more competent leadership, which I find fascinating.

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theyoungbloody t1_iymjut0 wrote

To be fair, Sneed is only coming off one City Council Pres vote, the other one was Lt Gov.

I still feel like she could be a great option for Council Pres if she were to run again.

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Gorgon86 t1_iz0bp1j wrote

Costello is the right color but he ignored his black constituents. I used to live in the black part of his district and saw it live.

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megalomike t1_iz0c3sx wrote

well someone should tell his constituents since he's by far the most popular member of the city council.

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Gorgon86 t1_iz0cmuh wrote

If that was the case he should be able to win the council presidency

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megalomike t1_iz0ewtg wrote

that's a non sequitur probably motivated by your personal grievances.

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Gorgon86 t1_iz0ffd7 wrote

Not a personal grievance. I literally watched how certain communities very rarely got his attention and others would see him there get frequently.

If he was extremely popular in his district, he should easily be able to convert that popularity into a successful city council president run. That popularity would have a positive spillover. His Whiteness has nothing to do with his inability to win. White candidates can win citywide races in Baltimore. It's his lack of attention to the entirety of his district

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megalomike t1_iz0ou45 wrote

its not a personal grievance, its just anger motivated by an experience limited to myself.

white candidates face substantial ingrained disadvantages which have only been overcome in my lifetime by either historically bad opponents, mosby is approaching that status but probably needs another 1-2 terms before his uselessness can no longer be made up for by his race, or by having more money and popularity than even costello has.

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Gorgon86 t1_iz0r4kt wrote

Before I respond, let me ask this question. Do you believe Mosby is in power because he is Black?

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megalomike t1_iz0rm6j wrote

only in the respect that as a black candidate he is not immediately disqualified by a large enough portion of the electorate that he can't win.

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