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The_Waxies_Dargle t1_j1aix2j wrote

Your solution? Let's say they catch this 15 year old who methodically planned out and forcibly raped a woman. Are you going to therapize this behavior away?

This isn't shoplifting, or a fight. Or even armed robbery. Or even battery. It's violent rape by a stronger male of a vulnerable woman. This kind of thing doesn't just ruin the life of the woman. This trauma will infect those around her, and it will get passed down in one form or another to future generations.

The justice system isn't trying to fix this person, it's trying to dissuade the rapist's classmate or neighbor from doing the same.

None of the guardrails that are supposed to keep this individual from doing this worked up to this point. But suddenly this person is going to respond to tough love from a state appointed counselor?

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pringlesbones t1_j1cxj1i wrote

Being tried as a juvenile doesn't have to mean treating it like a lesser crime, like he committed petty theft instead of rape. It can simply be keeping in mind that the criminal has a better chance of being rehabilitated. He'd still lose many of the freedoms that his peers can enjoy, and that would continue well into his adulthood. The problem is that it's easier (and more profitable for some) to throw someone in jail/basically let them completely go than have dedicated case workers to keep tabs, because our social infrastructure is shit.

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TheSpektrModule t1_j1siylg wrote

> Being tried as a juvenile doesn't have to mean treating it like a lesser crime, like he committed petty theft instead of rape.

Yes it does. Everyone knows that the juvenile system is a joke and hands out meaningless non-punishments.

> the criminal has a better chance of being rehabilitated.

Ha! Right, and I've got some prime swamp land in Florida to sell you.

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bmore t1_j1bim99 wrote

Yes, statistically they are less likely to re-offend if they are handled in the juvenile system. Longer sentences and even the death penalty do not dissuade violent crime, in fact they're correlated with greater violent crime. In the time you wrote this lengthy comment, you could have read a literature review on this subject.

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