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BmoreCityDOT OP t1_j0hw389 wrote

Reply to comment by essmithsd in We're testing out scooter no-parking zones. by BmoreCityDOT

If we require them to be parked in a corral, there will be a corral set up.

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Cunninghams_right t1_j0i2ty0 wrote

how spaced out are the corrals? scooters and bikes are the greenest, fastest, and all-around best mode of transportation within a city. I think people and the DOT over-react to minor violations while ignoring many other sidewalk issues. I have never seen a person on a wheelchair riding down the sidewalk next to the maryland ave bike lane; they ALWAYS ride in the bike lane because the sidewalks are not very passable just from trees, broken concrete, etc.. as a cyclist, I think that's great that we can have better bike infrastructure AND help handicapped folks get around easier.

if you really want to make the city more friendly to people with disabilities, build more bike lanes and subsidize scooter/bike rentals so everything isn't so car-dominant and pedestrian/ADA/cyclist unfriendly.

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BmoreCityDOT OP t1_j0ic2ed wrote

We are working on that too. The fees we collect from the scooter companies help fund the bike lanes.

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rmphys t1_j0iyzdd wrote

> scooters and bikes are the greenest, fastest, and all-around best mode of transportation within a city. I think people and the DOT over-react to minor violations while ignoring many other sidewalk issues.

Well, that is because scooters and bikes are also the fastest and most dangerous modes of transportation on sidewalks. A pedestrian, even in a wheelchair, has very little ability to hurt other people due to their movement. Bikes can and do kill people, so they require more regulation (just like cars have even more regulations than bikes because they are even more dangerous).

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Cunninghams_right t1_j0jxzx0 wrote

>Well, that is because scooters and bikes are also the fastest and most dangerous modes of transportation on sidewalks. A pedestrian, even in a wheelchair, has very little ability to hurt other people due to their movement. Bikes can and do kill people, so they require more regulation (just like cars have even more regulations than bikes because they are even more dangerous).

this is about parking of scooters, not them riding on sidewalks.

but if we want to have that conversation, mobility of handicapped folks AND safety of pedestrians, AND safety of bikes/scooters are improved if build some bike lanes.

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rmphys t1_j0l051j wrote

>I have never seen a person on a wheelchair riding down the sidewalk next to the maryland ave bike lane; they ALWAYS ride in the bike lane because the sidewalks are not very passable just from trees, broken concrete, etc.. as a cyclist, I think that's great that we can have better bike infrastructure AND help handicapped folks get around easier.

This is literally discussing how to make transportation easier for bikes and wheelchairs. Completely disconnected from scooter parking.

You were literally complaining about the riding of wheelchairs in your post, not the parking of them. I responded in kind about scooters. At least pretend to argue in good faith, sheesh

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always_misunderstood t1_j0lzz3l wrote

I didn't get that from their comments. to what are you referring? it seemed like they were complaining about parked scooters being seen as an ADA problem while ignoring the many other problems with sidewalk accessibility.

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neutronicus t1_j0p7noe wrote

Hell, my feet and knees thank me for running in bike lanes wherever possible.

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