rmphys t1_j0iyzdd wrote on December 17, 2022 at 12:10 AM

Reply to comment by Cunninghams_right in We're testing out scooter no-parking zones. by BmoreCityDOT

> scooters and bikes are the greenest, fastest, and all-around best mode of transportation within a city. I think people and the DOT over-react to minor violations while ignoring many other sidewalk issues.

Well, that is because scooters and bikes are also the fastest and most dangerous modes of transportation on sidewalks. A pedestrian, even in a wheelchair, has very little ability to hurt other people due to their movement. Bikes can and do kill people, so they require more regulation (just like cars have even more regulations than bikes because they are even more dangerous).

Cunninghams_right t1_j0jxzx0 wrote on December 17, 2022 at 5:16 AM

>Well, that is because scooters and bikes are also the fastest and most dangerous modes of transportation on sidewalks. A pedestrian, even in a wheelchair, has very little ability to hurt other people due to their movement. Bikes can and do kill people, so they require more regulation (just like cars have even more regulations than bikes because they are even more dangerous).

this is about parking of scooters, not them riding on sidewalks.

but if we want to have that conversation, mobility of handicapped folks AND safety of pedestrians, AND safety of bikes/scooters are improved if build some bike lanes.

rmphys t1_j0l051j wrote on December 17, 2022 at 1:26 PM

>I have never seen a person on a wheelchair riding down the sidewalk next to the maryland ave bike lane; they ALWAYS ride in the bike lane because the sidewalks are not very passable just from trees, broken concrete, etc.. as a cyclist, I think that's great that we can have better bike infrastructure AND help handicapped folks get around easier.

This is literally discussing how to make transportation easier for bikes and wheelchairs. Completely disconnected from scooter parking.

You were literally complaining about the riding of wheelchairs in your post, not the parking of them. I responded in kind about scooters. At least pretend to argue in good faith, sheesh

always_misunderstood t1_j0lzz3l wrote on December 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM

I didn't get that from their comments. to what are you referring? it seemed like they were complaining about parked scooters being seen as an ADA problem while ignoring the many other problems with sidewalk accessibility.