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moderndukes t1_j0mbb0u wrote

Reply to comment by PoopIsAlwaysSunny in We're testing out scooter no-parking zones. by BmoreCityDOT

You’re really not understanding me. Here’s the sequence causing this issue:

  • People want to bike or scooter.
  • People try on the streets.
  • The streets don’t have proper bike infrastructure, people feel unsafe.
  • People bike/scoot on the sidewalks where they feel safer.
  • Pedestrians feel unsafe on the sidewalks.

You’re trying to solve the problem allllll the way down at step 5 and only for the pedestrians, when that doesn’t address what caused that to happen: the issue of bikers/scooter…ers feeling unsafe on the roads. The lack of proper bike infrastructure is the cause. The effect of not building it while banning them from sidewalks is people will just completely stop biking/scooting at all.

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PoopIsAlwaysSunny t1_j0mne5h wrote

No, the cause is scooters thinking their convenience trumps the safety of pedestrians.

You’re the one trying to solve the problem by prioritizing improperly. If scooters don’t feel safe on the road, they can walk on the sidewalk. That’s a perfectly valid choice they have.

Making pedestrians unsafe isn’t an option.

I’d rather scooters be banned completely than ridden on sidewalks. They are dangerous to pedestrians and drivers.

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moderndukes t1_j0mrcqu wrote

Dude what did bike lines do to you that you can’t even understand that I’m just saying “install bike lanes and the issue gets solved?”

> I’d rather scooters be banned completely than ridden on sidewalks. They are dangerous to pedestrians and drivers.

Ohhhhh you’re just a NIMBY about bike lanes, this all makes sense now.

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PoopIsAlwaysSunny t1_j0mvbhx wrote

No, I want bike lanes everywhere. Hell, I want plenty of streets closed to cars.

But regardless of everything else, sidewalks have to be safe for pedestrians.

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