Submitted by BayernMunich334 t3_1068ysj in baltimore
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So now you’re racist? Lol
Why are you posting this two months later
Sucks brother. Consider you AirPods and wallet a donation, all replaceable. At least they didn’t kill ya.
The mental/emotional damage is real but give it time. Treat yourself in the meantime, you’ll bounce back.
Area around Hanlon Park ain't good. Go running in better neighborhoods.
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Don’t run around Hanlon Park. That neighborhood just south of Liberty Heights Ave is rough. Stick to Ashburton or hop a bus and head for the Harbor. Plenty of safe places to jog down there.
Sucks to hear it. Sorry man. Glad you weren't physically hurt, and hope you can get back your sense of well-being. Also good on you for recognizing the effect it had on you. Honestly this society causes that anyway, so pretty much everybody should be trying to work on their racism toward people of color, so you're no different than anybody else in the U.S. (me included).
You are the one who used the word racism lol And people are often in denial about how extensive their racism or implicit bias is. I recommend you do some internal work on it.
I went to a city that is predominantly black. I then decided to take a run in one of the most unsafe neighborhoods in that city, where there is probs gang activity. I then get robbed by a group of men who have guns and they are black. Ummm no shit. Most people around here don't carry guns like that esp in groups, including black people.
The percentage of black people in Baltimore is at least 61% for the entire city. The area you chose to run in is probably closer to 95% or more. So statistically if you were to be robbed in that area it would most likely be by a black person not because of their race but because of numbers seen in the demographics.
That is also notoriously one of the most unsafe parts of the city.
The person who also made sure I walked down the street okay one night. The woman who gave a random stranger on the bus money. The friendly bus driver. The awesome kids I work with in the city. Also all black. Their race is not what made them do those things.
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You were probably already racist if this is the straw that broke your back. Sorry this happened to you and everything. I’ve been drugged and robbed in Miami myself, yet I’m not prejudice against Cubans
If you wouldn’t be more afraid of white people after they robbed you then yeah it’s racist. You also called it racist in your own post.
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Kudos to you for writing about your experience, that’s a tough step. I’m sorry this happened to you, I wish you a speedy recovery. Please consider counseling with a provider familiar with post assault traumatic stress and paranoia. Many people have feelings of fear or concern after assault, especially when interacting with someone who reminds them of the assailant. Smells, sounds, sights can all trigger feelings of uneasiness. This is normal after an assault, a trained counselor can help you heal from this. I wish you the best in your recovery.
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I know a few white neighborhoods you can run around just to even things out and get some world experience if you’d like
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I was mugged in Hampden a bit more than a week before your incident. Two guys with guns tried to rob my wife and me a half block from our house. I wound up getting shot in the leg before they took off in a waiting car. Thankfully my wife was unhurt and they didn't get any of our things.
It's rough out there, I'm sorry you had this happen.
Yikes. Why so triggered?
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……”a little racism” bro go to therapy
That’s such cop out bullshit that it’s making you racist lmao but if poc verbalize valid issues with white people they are collectively gaslit but people are gonna defend this asshole jus for being assaulted and I think that’s utter bullshit
Bc of poverty and structural racism that causes the concentration of poverty that leads to crime being a way to make a living when jobs aren’t paying enough, your community is completely disinvested, and education is failing...you can thank White flight in the 1950s for the utter lack of investment in Baltimore. The white parts get invested while majority black areas...you know...and the city happens to be majority black so...anyone with critical thinking skills knows there’s a link between poverty and crime lmao
Good job blaming the victim, a-hole. How about a little empathy?
Short answer: slavery/racism.
i don't like racists.
how about not being a racist?
Jesus, I thought Hampden was one of the safer areas…
We all have biases, realizing they exist is a step towards fixing them. The OP is brave to admit this and wants to change it.
nah - he wanted sympathy, not a discussion on the impact of inherent biases.
First of all, that statement isn’t even factually accurate. Actually take a look at the racial demographics of the cities included.
Second of all, looking at cities is pretty arbitrary. If you look at a state level, a plurality (if not majority) of the most violent states actually have relatively low Black population..
Thirdly, in cases where a city is particularly violent AND the racial demographics are “primarily Black”, either by majority or plurality, these cities are often also relatively poor, so the primary analysis is actually more that “poor crowded people tend to experience/cause more crime”, and “Black people are disproportionately poor”, which isn’t really surprising. Sure, there might be other nuanced perspectives there, but these two are the elephants in the room.
Sounds like projection to me
b/c we only look at certain crimes when identifying "dangerous neighborhoods." If we counted other things like domestic violence, child rape, and incest it'd likely equal out across all parts of a city. srsly.
You’re right, he wanted sympathy for being the victim of a crime. Is it wrong to want that? Instead you blamed the victim. Should women not wear short skirts too? Anyone should be able to go for a run anywhere without being robbed.
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I recommend looking into getting a Handgun Qualification License (HQL) and then apply for your wear and carry permit. Now that Maryland is a "shall issue state", you should have no problem getting one, unless you are a felon or something.
I think there is a company that makes jogger pants with a concealed gun pocket, should you continue to run at night.
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Where in Hampden was this? I didn't even hear about that.
He literally said in the post he was racist so it’s hardly a projection lmao
Yeah but if you look into your heart you’ll find that your sensitivity to the matter is a result of your fear of being labeled a racist yourself, which is a fear only a covert racist would have.
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I’m openly racist unfortunately
See how that feels to come out with it? You just did a very brave thing. Now the healing can start.
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All I can say is I'm sorry. It sucks. Consider therapy (I know I'll get downvoted but it can HELP with trauma recovery, and this is a form of trauma). I hope you're able to get past it.
Lmaoooo and now you’re a racist? I don’t think this incident was the catalyst for your racism.
Ahh this was the one off Keswick right? Sorry to hear that. I live in the neighborhood. How has your recovery gone?
Things were getting a little crazy/weird in Hampden over the summer with car jackings then months to follow. Hope you’re well!
Words of advice, coming from a native that’s been in all kinds of neighborhoods. When outside.., Headphones off: leave them home. Phones: in pocket out of view or home Don’t walk down the street texting. Keep a 20 and an old credit card in your wallet, keep your bank card, credit card, license and the rest of your cash anywhere but in your wallet.
Think of your wallet as a decoy
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Nobody feels sorry for racist
That makes sense. One gun against 5? You’re going to get him robbed and killed. I’m also I not understanding why someone would rob a jogger…I would not think they had a wallet on them.
Please read up on unconscious bias.
Bruh I’m dead! I thought the same shit! Like a flip of a switch “well I guess I’m racist now”
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Lmao boy - you’re a hoot. I’m not gonna go an eye for an eye on ya. Dead ass you just flipped a switch and are openly racist on Reddit…with such confidence. “I swear - I don’t want to be like this” then don’t let your own fear take over. Go hang out with some people that don’t do the usual routine you do. Whoever, whatever they look like. You need a book, a therapist and some culture
Buddy been racist and not just “a little”! which they go on to say in the post they “don’t like” but had no problem making sure we knew their views on people of color have all of a sudden now changed. Like please go ahead somewhere with that 😭
Again, nobody feels sorry for racist
Got any actual different points to make?
Nope. Still defending racism?
I lived in Baltimore for years, and just never saw any of this stuff. Idk, maybe it’s how you look or something. I was feeling bad until the racist comments or something. Maybe instead of running, hit the gym or get a gun idk
Sigh. That’s not what I’m doing at all. The world isn’t as black and white as you’d like it to be.
That’s exactly what you’re doing. And this particular situation is black & white. There’s no gray area with racism.
Unconscious bias is THE grey area for racism.
It’s not. It’s you defending racism.
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This is a fun merry go round. I’m getting off here though. Have a good day.
Your first mistake was defending racism. Your second mistake was defending it with me. I don’t support that fuckery in any form, you apologist.
That's an extrapolation. Should he get sympathy for being mugged? Sure. Should he get sympathy for it being his excuse to say it caused him to be racist? No. If he wanted sympathy for being mugged he would've left out the part about him being racist & dealt with that part of his character in a much more productive way. He's being manipulative & too many of y'all are falling for it.
Edit: your handle reminded me of my favorite coffee cup that says "I'm a fucking delight."
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Conversations about racism are hard on social media. I for one admire the OP for being blunt about how the incident made him feel. He described not liking the feeling, so clearly doesn’t want the feeling to escalate. Is talking about that feeling wrong?
If you aren’t open to discussion about racism, you won’t make any progress in changing attitudes towards it. Call me whatever names you want, but I’m open to a frank discussion.
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It’s not my job to change anyone’s mind on racism. It’s my job to tell them how stupid they are. Generally people with low IQs are racist and I don’t waste my time on stupid people.
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/were-only-human/is-racism-just-a-form-of-stupidity.html
Before having children, I used to run in the city, carried nothing except a house key. Fortunately, I was never robbed, I don’t know why you’d have headphones, you want to be aware of the surroundings.
I’d argue that it’s all of our jobs to fight racism and therefore to have productive discussions on race that lead to less racism in our society. Calling people stupid is counterproductive, even though racism and low IQ are indeed strongly correlated.
Calling people exactly what you they are is very productive to me. People lack self awareness.
You are inappropriately mixing too many variables, and at the same time ignoring many of the important ones.
Calling a spade a spade is called for at times. But the OP admitted to racist feelings that he doesnt like having. Telling him he’s stupid doesn’t help him process those feelings. He needs to be told these feelings are understandable given the trauma. But those feelings shouldn’t be directed to a whole group of people. His attackers could have easily been any color or group. They happened to be black because of the whole history of systemic racism. His anger shouldn’t be directed to group of disadvantaged people, but at the system that created this situation he was put in. He should be able to run in any neighborhood without fear.
They’re not understandable. Stop coddling and pacifying racist
Around the 3000 block of Keswick Road, in the alleyway leading up from the path to the bridge on Wyman Park Drive.
Thanks! Yep, that's the one. Recovery is going okay, I'm walking around again which is nice.
It generally is, which is why this group targeted the area. These guys have been doing carjackings and armed robberies for the last few months in this area (might even be the same group that got OP) because people aren't expecting it in a "safe" area, the victims are generally fairly well off, and so far they've suffered no consequences for their actions. Why give it up?
This should be the standard, very good advice.
I appreciate your honesty. Address it and work with a qualified therapist. Best of luck, and stick to daylight runs, please for your safety.👍
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☠️mans even straight up replied “I have yet to been robbed by a white person lol” to someone. As if he couldn’t even imagine such a thing ever occurring…ye buddy, ya just “became” racist.
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Sorry that happened
Oh yeah, I think I do remember hearing about this. When was this? Did they catch the people who did it?
It was at the end of October. As far as I know, they haven't been caught yet.
I mean, the people who robbed you have the same ethnicity as the majority of the people who live in the city where it happened. The people who will help you recover your sense of safety after this are also probably going to be the same ethnicity as the majority of the city where that part happens. That's just a function of math, not race. None of the isms are gonna help with the trauma.
From the perspective of another runner; don't ever run with your wallet. Even before I moved here I used to run in a secluded, wooded and safe area in the midwest and never carried a wallet or phone or earbuds. Honestly, the less you can run with the safer you are -- not just from robbery but from all kinds of randomness. The closest I've ever come to being mortally harmed on a run is when a giant deer running at full speed nearly obliterated me head-on on a trail because I glanced down at my watch instead focusing ahead on my route.
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