If your only issue is who gets the money you can always just buy both IP’s products 2nd hand. If your issue is based on the principal of not supporting those people in any way based on their beliefs than I’d say yes that’s hypocritical.

Id leave the decision of wether you want to support either IP up to yourself though.

Why are we getting so many people posting in this sub just to pick fights lately.

I’m not trying to pick fights it’s a genuine question and I want to know. Jewish people can contribute in the comments if you want. I value opinions like yours especially on this topic.

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Sorry, bad memory. I’ll change it now.

I’m Jewish and I already contributed the comment I wanted.

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done! it’s been corrected. again, sorry, my memory sucks

Not really sure! Tolkien may have been a product of his time. I always enjoyed his works and never did get into HP. I don't find his work overtly racist or anti-semitic, though with research, one might notice these things.

Alright, thanks for the insight.

It’s not that deep. They’re just books/stories. At this point you probably already own the books anyway. You’re also talking about analysing a mythology that was written before a single bullet was fired in World War 2 by today’s standards. To put into perspective as well when Tolkien started writing all women in Britain had only had the vote for less than a decade.

Im not sure if you’re just stuck in certain internet bubbles but outside of certain sections of the internet I’d say 99.9 percent of the population of every country on earth would not bat an eyelid at all (in the context of you being anti semetic) if you said you were a fan of the Lord of the Rings.

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This is bait

So you think you ought not like Tolkien because he wrote fantasy stories before anyone conceived of trans-people? That means you pretty well have to chuck all literature written before 2010 or so. That seems a bit unreasonable to me.

Regarding LOTR I understand the part about LOTR mythology being a mythology. But the part about books just being books, I grew up with Harry Potter and read it in middle school and started reading Tolkien last year before the pandemic, (I didn’t know it was anti demerit until people started talking about it on the internet. There wasn’t a lot of Jewish people in my life back when I read the books so I didn’t understand.

Look at the OP's profile. It is either bait or this is one seriously confused person. I'm going to have to start reviewing all profiles before I comment. I get suckered in to too much insanity when I don't.

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The dwarves were characterized as selfish and greedy when it came to matters of the Arkenstone and their wealth.

I wasn’t referring to anti-trans rhetoric when it came to Tolkien, I was talking about Rowling being a transphobe despite the fact that it’s 2023 and she’s still standing by the idea that trans peoples identities aren’t valid.

I feel like this is a post meant for a subreddit with a focus on sociology or something. Ethics?

I don't think being a fan of an invented world makes you anything in this world.

I understand that if you take into account JK's persona, and the coding of them or whatever, it seems like she was talking about Jews. But as far as the story is considered, the Goblins are just Goblins.

The story itself is art. It's expression, it's a journey, it's not the author. Even if it's a 'bad' story, someone can and will glean something of value from it. Something good. Even if it's a subversion of what the story is.

I hate censorship of art.

There is no antisemitism in HP. The whole idea was made up by spin doctors. The dwarves aren't antisemitic symbols either. There were many celebrity antisemitic writers in England while Tolkien was working - Chesterton, Belloc, Eliot, Sassoon for four. They were completely explicit about it, no secret coding. Anyone in Tolkien's position could have got away with it. But he didn't have anything to do with that gang.

Rowling's attitudes to trans people postdate the HP books. And at this point she can afford to take the attitude that any publicity is good publicity.

I assumed this would be quickly deleted though I did not predict the time frame.

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