Andjhostet t1_jd54n9s wrote on March 21, 2023 at 10:11 PM

Why do people think everything is binary? People are not good people or bad people. They are just... People. With good and bad qualities. Humans are complex. The fact that you are just like "ope they did something I don't like, I'm not cheering for them anymore" is pretty concerning to me and very bizarre.

This post is perfectly emblematic of a trend I've been seeing a lot lately. People HAVE to categorize characters into either good or bad and that's just not how life works. It's quite concerning, and probably a symptom of the increasing tribalism and polarization of society.

masterofunfucking t1_jd5ejk4 wrote on March 21, 2023 at 11:19 PM

Been seeing that lately whenever people try to discuss Lolita. Turns into a flame war where people who support it are enablers and like that shit and people who don’t are better? for some reason or another

senoritaraquelita t1_jd92pz5 wrote on March 22, 2023 at 6:32 PM

One can appreciate the complexity of a character and ultimately decide to like them or dislike them. I personally come down pretty neutral on the character of Giovanni - I definitely think he is misogynistic but that a lot of that is a result of the society he was brought up in as well as his jealousy and pain. I do however HATE David - just make one decision man, just one!!! - but I still appreciate that he’s a well written character.

West_b0und OP t1_jd59n9l wrote on March 21, 2023 at 10:46 PM

I’m sorry you feel that way, but as a woman, I’m perfectly within the right to dislike characters who insult my gender. It’s not that I think people don’t have a mix of good and bad qualities— it’s that this bad quality in particular was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. To be sure, Giovanni has good qualities (he’s eloquent, satirical, intelligent, a good read of people, etc), but his bad ones (he’s volatile, manipulative, violent, misogynistic, etc) don’t do him any favors.

Also LOL at the tribalism/polarization of society bit. It’s not that deep. People can have opinions.

Andjhostet t1_jd5fxb8 wrote on March 21, 2023 at 11:29 PM

Ok but why does the camel's back have to break? You are completely missing my point. You don't have to "cheer" for anybody. You can be invested in a character without having to cheer for them or against them.

West_b0und OP t1_jd5g7yg wrote on March 21, 2023 at 11:31 PM

Did I ever say otherwise? I’m literally just saying that I can dislike characters if I want to, regardless of whether I’m invested in them or not.